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| New thread started due to 1000 post limit passed on old one.
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| A list of our 'subsidies' from the HDM:
Quote Cover policing and stewarding costs for Hull FC games at a cost in excess of £100,000 a year, a service not provided to Hull City.
Purchase, as part of the lease agreement, £140,000 worth of Hull FC Premier Club season passes every season, giving the club guaranteed income.
Subsidises the catering and beer sales at each match, making a loss of £70,000 last season.'"
The first one we all knew about anyway.
I have no idea what the Hull FC Premier Club is so can't comment on that.
The food and drink prices are subsidised? Difficult to credit. And anyway, as FC make no money whatsoever from food and drink sales I don't see how this is even relevant.
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| lol what with all the bad feeling,the beer and catering will be losing more than £70K this coming season i guess !
SMC could scrap all of it,agreement allowing,and save £70K there.
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| I see that Ehab Allam is now blaming FC Voices for not warning him about the importance of Johnny Whiteley.
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| Quote ="PAC"lol what with all the bad feeling,the beer and catering will be losing more than £70K this coming season i guess !
SMC could scrap all of it,agreement allowing,and save £70K there.'"
I don't even understand why we'd ask for a subsidy given that we don't make any money from it. Weird.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't even understand why we'd ask for a subsidy given that we don't make any money from it. Weird.'"
Exactly what I was thinking?
It's making a loss so he wants to HCC to take over, simple really to see.
I like the bit where he says we now have more visable accounting process and we can see it's losing money, which means he bought a company that he didnt know anything about.
Dont own a company myself but I am pretty sure if I wanted to buy one that I would check if it made money or lost money before buying it - doh!
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| Purchase, as part of the lease agreement, £140,000 worth of Hull FC Premier Club season passes every season, giving the club guaranteed income.
Would that include some seats cordoned off as part of crowd control/safety.
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| Quote ="Punos"Exactly what I was thinking?
It's making a loss so he wants to HCC to take over, simple really to see.
I like the bit where he says we now have more visable accounting process and we can see it's losing money, which means he bought a company that he didnt know anything about.
Dont own a company myself but I am pretty sure if I wanted to buy one that I would check if it made money or lost money before buying it - doh!'"
Didn't Adam Pearson say that he did not know about the level of trouble Hull FC were in until after he took over?
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| Quote ="Pony685"Didn't Adam Pearson say that he did not know about the level of trouble Hull FC were in until after he took over?'"
Same with Ok and the Bradford bulls,its not too uncommon for folk to buy into something without finding out the full details,they hide stuff you dont want to see quite well !
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| Quote ="Kosh"I see that Ehab Allam is now blaming FC Voices for not warning him about the importance of Johnny Whiteley.'"
Exactly and let me make this perfectly clear before anyone goes running off with any ideas. I see that in today's article in the Mail Allam is searching desperately for scape goats and says that FC Voices never warned us about the importance of the Johnny Whiteley pictures, well of course they didn't they don't have Crystal balls, the first they knew about his pictures being removed was when the ex players reported it to the group and the Club last Friday night. It speaks volumes when they claim they were unaware of what their actions would cause when they were directed at probably the greatest living sportsman in the City!
The group did complain to them in the past about a year ago, about the foyer area and the eyes something that was reported on here. However the removal of all the pictures was a surprise to us all. The group haven't even met with the SMC for months because since John Cooper left they haven't heard from them and the SMC have certainly never ever consulted as to what they should do in the Stadium or how the fans would take it. There is little doubt that the actions of a couple of members of FC Voices this week has got under their skin!!!
That really infuriates me!!! He's trying to deflect the blame. I had to put the record straight and will not be commenting on this again there are bigger battles to fight!!! Sorry rant over!
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| Quote ="djlard"Purchase, as part of the lease agreement, £140,000 worth of Hull FC Premier Club season passes every season, giving the club guaranteed income.
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Don't 'Premier Club' tickets work the same way as 'Club Wembley' in that they give you a ticket to every event at the stadium. This means that some revenue has be gained by the sale of Premier Club surely?
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| Quote ="Pony685"Didn't Adam Pearson say that he did not know about the level of trouble Hull FC were in until after he took over?'"
Fair point
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| Quote ="Pony685"Didn't Adam Pearson say that he did not know about the level of trouble Hull FC were in until after he took over?'"
No. He said that he didn't appreciate the level of underinvestment. There is a rather important difference as I'm sure you realise.
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| The premier club is a deal where you pay about 1000 pound and gain access to both city and fc aswell as first choice to buy any other tickets it is for businesses really as you get your company name on a plaque on the wall.
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| The premier club is a deal where you pay about 1000 pound and gain access to both city and fc aswell as first choice to buy any other tickets it is for businesses really as you get your company name on a plaque on the wall.
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| The premier club is a deal where you pay about 1000 pound and gain access to both city and fc aswell as first choice to buy any other tickets it is for businesses really as you get your company name on a plaque on the wall.i wouldn't call this a subsidy as the amount paid more than covers the pass prices
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Exactly and let me make this perfectly clear before anyone goes running off with any ideas. I see that in today's article in the Mail Allam is searching desperately for scape goats and says that FC Voices never warned us about the importance of the Johnny Whiteley pictures, well of course they didn't they don't have Crystal balls, the first they knew about his pictures being removed was when the ex players reported it to the group and the Club last Friday night. It speaks volumes when they claim they were unaware of what their actions would cause when they were directed at probably the greatest living sportsman in the City!
The group did complain to them in the past about a year ago, about the foyer area and the eyes something that was reported on here. However the removal of all the pictures was a surprise to us all. The group haven't even met with the SMC for months because since John Cooper left they haven't heard from them and the SMC have certainly never ever consulted as to what they should do in the Stadium or how the fans would take it. There is little doubt that the actions of a couple of members of FC Voices this week has got under their skin!!!
That really infuriates me!!! He's trying to deflect the blame. I had to put the record straight and will not be commenting on this again there are bigger battles to fight!!! Sorry rant over!'"
TBF the article does not say FC voices were informed last summer, they state Hull FC were informed and then Hull FC instructed SMC to take the pictures down. Maybe he is just assuming Hull FC shared this information and their decision with the fans.
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| Yeh I know SAorry just p*ssed me off because they bandy names about all the time to try and explain why they didn't 'know who Johnny was' if you get my drift! I just know how people on here run of with thing!
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"TBF the article does not say FC voices were informed last summer, they state Hull FC were informed and then Hull FC instructed SMC to take the pictures down. Maybe he is just assuming Hull FC shared this information and their decision with the fans.'"
Now where the hell does it say that?
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| Reports on Radio Humberside that the Allams have offered the SMC back to the Council.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No. He said that he didn't appreciate the level of underinvestment. There is a rather important difference as I'm sure you realise.'"
Pearson, who bought the Super League club last July, says he has been shocked by the state of the club's finances since taking control.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Yeh I know SAorry just p*ssed me off because they bandy names about all the time to try and explain why they didn't 'know who Johnny was' if you get my drift!'"
I do get your drift, although one has to ask does AP know who Johnny is as he is the one who requested it was taken down for what appears to be a few hundred quid. All getting a bit messy now and the deafening silence from Hull FC is starting to feel uncomfortable if I am honest.
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| I wonder if Ehab Allam is confusing FC Premier Club with that select band of individuals who "invested" £1000 (IIRC) during the Lloyd days and received lifetime pases as a reward. When we moved to the KC, this privilege was extended to them
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| The Premier club is a strange one
I recall when it was set up there were 2 levels, they both included the football, but you had to pay extra to include the rugby games.
As for subsidising the beer, its no cheaper for FC games, in fact we pick up the hike mid season when they increase the prices for Footy season and even though Citys crowds are higher id doubt they sell more beer on a game day
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