For those that live in Hull I suggest you start lobbying your councillor now and let him/her know your feelings about the sale of the KC and how you will do everything you can to ensure they lose their seat at the next council elections if the KC is sold. There is nothing that these people fear more than whinging electorate and losing their seat.

the time to act is now
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Very good point its easy to sit there tapping away on your keyboard but perhaps an E Mail to your local Councillor would hit the spot the thing is we might have to mobilise the massed ranks of the FC fans in the City some time soon but that would be a start!

Wasn't it muted about a referendum to decide the sale anyway.

I expect that to be quietly forgotten about TBH.

Who needs one?

If rovers fans want it and City fans want it, why bother?

Yups, I can see the wording now.

Dear poor tax payer do you want me to take the very expensive KC stadium off the councils hands. Please dont forget, if you are a football fan I've just bought your team and are pumping loads of money into it, or if rugby is your prefered sport, I've just bribed a large precentage of the rovers fans with a 1mill cash injection.
so, don't let that influence you, but......

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im afraid neilHFC got it spot on worst is yet to come with hudgell sponsoring away supporters end of KC and calling it neil hudgell stand is they nothing this man won't do to wind up FC supporters and board

Already one step ahead there Jake, rang mine this morning and had a very interesting conversation.

Great, so does he prefer hobnobs or rich tea?

E-mail sent to Mr Allen, not sure what good it will do?
So HullFC50 care to share details of your conversation?

A question - How many in Hull voted on the AV referendum 2 weeks ago ??? Your answer on a postcard please?

how is that relevant?

Big difference though, AV means nothing to the majority of people, yet the sale of a council owned property that houses two of our sporting teams means a bit more.

Exactly

I think you could fit all the names on a post card!

I voted No to AV, but Yes was my second choice

Maybe on the stamp on the postcard

Its relavant if people cant be bothered to vote - but sorry if that is to hard for you to grasp.

can some one please tell me how you can contact the local council ombudsman to question how the council can invest in a private company when they are cutting back on services for the elderly, disabled and those in need of care.
4.5 million can pay for a lot of things that are more important then a new stand for a club that should be in a posistion to get grants and borrow the rest from banks using the new facility as collataral.

The council are not loaning them the money outright or investing in Rovers, they are more or less acting as guarantor on a central government grant. The council apply for the grant, Rovers use it for stadium development and pay back the council by way of rent on the new facilities (think I've got it right).

A guarantor still undertakes the loan. How credit-worthy are Rovers and could the council have to cough up at some point? Perhaps a mystery buye.. I mean benefactor could step in?

spot on, it's basically a mortgage over 35 years that the council have to apply for on behalf of rovers, rovers pay the money though and still face the same penalties as anybody else if it is not repayed. mind you, don't let the facts get in the way of a good moan for some on here mind

So who pays if Rovers default or go bust?

sparky1963 wrote:can some one please tell me how you can contact the local council ombudsman to question how the council can invest in a private company when they are cutting back on services for the elderly, disabled and those in need of care.
4.5 million can pay for a lot of things that are more important then a new stand for a club that should be in a posistion to get grants and borrow the rest from banks using the new facility as collataral.


The council are not loaning them the money outright or investing in Rovers, they are more or less acting as guarantor on a central government grant. The council apply for the grant, Rovers use it for stadium development and pay back the council by way of rent on the new facilities (think I've got it right).


but if they default on the loan the council pick up the bill. and will they pay a viable rent for the facilities. i know that city and hull where given preferentiol rents at the KC but in my opinion they should all pay the going rate for the facilities they rent and the council should get a viable return on the money we as tax payers and technically owners of the old hull telephones deserve

the same as would happen if you default on your mortgage the assets would be seized and sold unless someone bailed you out and paid it for you.