Dave Burns little tirade against us was bang out of order last night. He was on a mission to whip listeners up into a frenzy and succeeded.

He invited people to call/text/e-mail their thoughts about the domestic violence campaign we are supporting together with our signing of Stuart Reardon, obviously oblivious to all the facts.

Even later when Craig Murdoch and Gwillym Lloyd pointed out that there was an article in Friday's programme (which would surely have had to be proof read etc. well before Reardon was even released from Warrington) saying that it was aimed at the perpetrators, he said that he didn't believe it wasn't all pre-meditated, ranting on about the timing of the announcement. All this regardless of the fact that Reardon was only released by Warrington on Monday, we didn't announce his signing until Saturday and our involvement in the campaign will have been organised long before.

He then went on to compare us to backing an anti-drugs campaign with Pete Doherty as spokesman and suggested us running out to "Smack My B*tch Up".

Had to laugh at the Rovers fan Christine though. "If I were a victim of domestic violence I'd see this as a smack in the face"

burnsy is so worried about his beloved footy team getting relegated from the prem, he probably didnt stop to think before he ranted on

I know I shouldn't but.....

I know its like saying if you break your leg dont come running to me

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First of all, I think that men being violent against women is disgusting.
That said, I think violence against anyone is disgusting.

Why do we make this more of an issue, then men being violent to men, or women being violent to women, or even (and it does happen) women being violent to men?

If we are to take a moral high ground, should it not be against violence full stop.
Is it less immoral if the victim is a man?

That's a very good point you make there, it does kind of count out a lot more of our team then just the one though!

Exactly.

The same would be said for all teams, and all sports.

The charity Snap, which runs a gender-neutral helpline, says it receives up to 25 calls a day from battered men. There are only four places in the country which offer shelter to male victims of domestic violence, which men's rights campaigners say is not enough. (extract from [urlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/record-numbers-of-men-are-being-hit-by-their-stressedout-wives-and-girlfriends-515139.html[/url)

The guy is an idiot and always has a pop at RL especially FC. Isn't it strange he never kicked up a fuss about Marlon King?

he thinks he's jonathan ross or chris moyles and tries to copy their style.

I listened to Humbersides coverage of the city game on saturday and it was filled with him and Swannys 'jokes' throughout, you would have thought it was the burnsie show not a vital relegation 6 pointer.

It was the worst I have heard him since the Sharp is Toast tirade of last year. He seems to have learnt a new work "Crass" as he must have repeated it ten times. It was the bit about the entry music that up set me though!

Thing is in the end by his actions he appears to care little for us or Rovers, or in fact Shorpe or Grimsby until, that is, there is something that he can get controversial about. No doubt he will be shouting the odds about it tonight on Sports Talk.

There was, you will notice, little 'going off on one' about Marlon Kings antics was there? That would have upset his friend Mr Duffen . Its a bit like the way he defended his decision on the RL international. For most of the time we all seem after thoughts when compaired with his beloved City!

Got to say the Doc and Mr lloyd talked some sense though, before they were shouted down by their boss. They spoke sense without condoning the signing or what he had done! They did not back what had happened just tried to put across the facts Perhaps Hull Fc should start an anti bullying campaign next!

The Sports Editor will all probably be reading this and saying what a good profile the tirade has got them!! How sad!

This is the man who labelled Hull crass and then made a joke about domestic abuse.

I listened to it and thought he was right.

with regards to King City hadn't announced a anti domestic violence scheme had they?

Lets be honest if this was happening to hkr we'd all be loving it but because it's Hull some fans believe all the media hate us.

that and the fact he loves the sound of his own vice and thinks he's Hull's answer to Howard Stern; he's about as radical as Howard from the Halifax.

Like I said on another post, HDM couldn't give a stuff about street or domestic violence, or even news for that matter
Seem to me that all they care about these days is controversy and if that involves creating tension between our clubs and fans, all the better.

If these two cases didn't involve Rovers and FC players they would barely have got much more mention than a chip pan fire.

Some of the 'reporting' has been worse than crass for quite some time.

Burns is not a very intelligent man..he clearly likes the sound of his own voice..
What annoyed me was when he was presented with the facts of the fc campaign he decided he was not buying into it

Who Cares

Social Research has identified 3 levels of perputrators in Domestic Violence be the perputrator male of female.
1 normally represents a one off incident..3 usually represents a very violent individual..
Research has shown if perps in catergories 1 +2 are offered help via counselling etc there is a better chance of the perp not re-offending. Whatever circumstances brough Readon here..if he gets community service he will be ideal to recieve the help and help promote the campaign which will be very benefical for 1000s of families.

Well said!

Well Said!!!

AND that for me is the main cause of the friendly banter and good natured rivalry between our clubs that we all experienced in the 80's turning into the (almost) hatred that now prevails between the two sets of fans. This is fuellled by some of the ridiculously provocative and usually groundless Texts and message board clap trap the media organisations in this City welcome and broadcast.

One day mark my words it will all blow up and then it will be the clubs faults and the fans that are to blame, whilst they will be left with a good story!

Edited for accuracy. Stop to think before he ranted on, heh.

Any-way I will be tuning in now just to hear Burns bully his staff whilst condoning FC for signing Readon (who has clearly shown remorse publicly for his one off offence) which none of us condone however we all accept we are not in receipt of the full facts or had the opportunity to talk to Stuart in relation to this offence..

I hope this man Burns does not consider himself a sports journalist as he clearly has no idea how to gather any facts or information..He clearly uses the bbc show to air his own personal views.and uses the show as a soapbox.Yesterday it appeared he had no interest in discussing the rugby he just wanted to discuss the Readon case..what makes it worse is they appear to be using this show to cause a big divide between both the KR & FC fans..why did he want to ask a fan before they commented on Readon who they supported!! It must be said they also did it with the Cockayne saga.

At times it seemed he himself didn't know the point he was making. His argument was much the "Can't you see the irony", which, ultimately there is irony there but yes, we can, so what?

His stupidity was highlighted by the fact that not only did he speak about an issue he clearly didn't know much about (The nature of the campaign, the nature of his offense) but when issued with the facts he still choose to ignore them. What a stupid stupid man.

That has been my concern for a while.
Since the BC case closed and running up to the derby I was actually worried for the first time in a long time that there could be some serious trouble because of the way the media had been behaving in Hull.
Thankfully, I think the right-minded majority were desperate to prove this 'hatred' is manufactured and I believe fans from both sides were on the best behaviour at a derby for years.

The atmosphere before during and after was superb and I doff my hat to the real rugby fans of this city.

On the subject of texts to BBC: I have had many texts not read out on the program whilst they have been happy to read out the bilge they get slagging each other off every week. They know full well what they are doing, believe me.

I have been a big champion of RH over the last few years (HDM I wrote off decades ago) but frankly their current behaviour disgusts me.

Of course, so many of you are correct, and RH should only read out pre-prepared statements from censors, and only talk about what people really don't want to hear. Entertainment at it's best, i'm sure you won't agree.

No ...but the basic requirement for any audience is for a presenter to at least know the facts of what they are reporting..otherwise they risk appearing rather stupid..Just like Burns did..a good reporter (very rear) I know has the ability to faciliate a debate without Bullying his own point of view down every-ones throat!! A BBC radio station should not be used as a soapbox with ill informed reporters spouting and antagonising opposite teams within the city and this is just waht is happening on RH

I had a cracking day, before during and after. After the game was out with FC and Rovers fans and we had a superb time, rugby was hardly mentioned all day tbh.

Burnsy is just poor fullstop, I listened to him commentating on City the other week and it was awful, he constantly went on about anything but the game and seems to think he is some kind of personality.