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Would be great if he could, I'd ask Fitz to stay rather than sign someone else.

I think it's almost certain he's retiring.

We're as bad as Rovers, cant we just play by the rules?

They said it a bit ago.

Hopefully it won't raise our overseas quota but increase the quality available to us.

Why?

from what i know, it's not a case of getting him off the quota, because of his time in England, he will be offered the Britsh Title. Will come off the cap, but by HIS admission and not FC's

I would too but he will retire I feel, his body is shot.

In which case I would go for Lauaki, can cover prop and backrow.

Trying to cram as many Aussies in the team as possible, we've already got Manu who is supposedly English.

No not at all.

We may be trying to get obst off so we can re sign fitz.

Let's wait to see what happens before we hang the club.

If Obst had been with us a while then fair enough but he hasn't been here a full season and we are already looking to make him an "English" player. Plenty of people have ridiculed Rovers for doing the self and same thing.

Which we see us having more overseas players than this year, which will be very disappointing.

Agar has messed up by signing Heremaia IMO.

We should stick with what we have.

Is Moa not resigning now?

Even if we can get Obst exempt from the quota, we'd still have one non-fed spot;

McKinnon, Heremenia, Seymour, O'Meley, Moa?

No mate, we could have the same but at different overseas levels.

Whats the point then?

Again I confused if we got Obst off we would have,

Mckinnon
Seymour
Heremaia
Moa
O Meley
Manu
Obst

So we couldn't sign Fitz or Lauaki then?

That would be my view. If we can't find a British player for what we need then move obst on to create the space. There would be plenty of takers.

We're trying to circumnavigate the quota rules for a player who probably won't even be in the 17 if everyone is fit.

About time we started developing our own players more effectively

If we got obst we could keep fitz over Mia or sign another 'full' quota player.

IMO we won't get better than Moa.

Only reason I can think is that we're not intending to re-sign moa or lauaki and sign a new quota player.

The quotes from agar are a bit odd IMO, seems to intimate someone may be moving on who the fans would want to keep. Moa maybe?

But isn't that just the point - [uIF[/u this scenario were to happen we [uwould[/u be playing by the rules. The fact that the rules may be over-complex, practically indecipherable and open to ridicule and manipulation by all concerned doesn't mean that we wouldn't be playing by them. To my mind it is the rules that need to be clearer and simpler, so you can't blame any club for not taking advantage. Much as I'd love to see home grown talent, I guess most fans would also rather see us utilise the rules to the maximum in order to have a successful squad.

I see, could be another big mistake by Agar if he lets Moa go (unless it's Moa's choice).

This move would not go down well with the fans.

There aren't many props in SL I would swap for Moa and like you said we are unlikely to sign a better NRL prop IMO

Dave he could go to a very good NRL side, no club in sl has 4 props better than him.

If we were re-signing moa we wouldn't need to get obst off the quota

Hopefully yes.

As I understand it Ogre, Moa (if he signs), Heremaia, Seymour, McKinnon and Obst will take the 5 spots (even though there are 6 of them due to the new rules).

If Obst comes off then we could sign another player.

Maybe it's Obst who is trying to get off then, would give him more options for the future.