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| This will probably get locked fairly rapidly.
There's big trouble in East Hull (and more to come apparently), new stand is nowhere near completion or speficication, Rovers have taken their bat, ball, jumpers and stumps home.
Sounds like NLP are largely useless, cladding a stand at KR in Blue was just a schoolboy error.
Stand wont be ready for the Derby.
Between that and allowing Allam to mismanage the KC, is it time for a rethink on the Councils direct involvement in sporting projects?
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| Grudell still had to get a dig in at us, even after the revelation that the council paid for their new pitch.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Grudell still had to get a dig in at us, even after the revelation that the council paid for their new pitch.'"
It's a mark of the man. Pearson = dignified silence and discussions behind closed doors, Grudgel = wah wah wah, it's so unfaaaaiiirrr
It's like Stephen Fry v Kevin the Teenager
Wonder if the RFL will move the World Cup games as a precaution?
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| Quote ="Standee"It's a mark of the man. Pearson = dignified silence and discussions behind closed doors, Grudgel = wah wah wah, it's so unfaaaaiiirrr
It's like Stephen Fry v Kevin the Teenager
Wonder if the RFL will move the World Cup games as a precaution?'"
Why? wouldnt have thought PNG v Samoa would attract more then 8500 as our capacity is at present.
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| Quote ="Standee"
Wonder if the RFL will move the World Cup games as a precaution?'"
TBF they should be stripped of the games, its a disgrace.
52 week build mind.........
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Grudell still had to get a dig in at us, even after the revelation that the council paid for their new pitch.'"
Which also makes it relevant to our board.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Why? wouldnt have thought PNG v Samoa would attract more then 8500 as our capacity is at present.'"
I would imagine the RFL were counting on income from the Corporate Boxes, and hospitality areas, which wont be available.
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| what a joke of a club they are.
I love the fact that they had forgotten to put turnstiles in the stand - surely that is an advantage ?
....and Sandycock will never see it before he is sacked
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| have to love the comment on the HDM article about it being a conspiracy by FC supporting Councillors...!
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| Quote ="Standee"I would imagine the RFL were counting on income from the Corporate Boxes, and hospitality areas, which wont be available.'"
Whitehaven
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| =#FF0000Just a quick note...
There are some perfectly valid discussion points around this issue that affect us either directly or indirectly. However, if this descends into the usual cross-city slanging match then it will go the way of previous similar threads and get locked.
Cheers.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Whitehaven'"
Are we naming random places in Cumbria, or do you mean move the games to Whitehaven, or that Whitehaven don't have corporate facilities?
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| Quote ="Standee"Are we naming random places in Cumbria, or do you mean move the games to Whitehaven, or that Whitehaven don't have corporate facilities?'"
They were stripped of a game as their ground would not be ready
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"They were stripped of a game as their ground would not be ready'"
Ah right, didn't knnow that.
Have to see what the RFL do (if anything)
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| Isnt it ironic after all the bullsh%t from the dobbins, there imaginary 15 million investor, there legoland stand handouts from the council and they are back were they started no money,dropping fans and a ground that looks even worse than it did. I must say i feel sorry for them nottttttt!!!! .We must put a bid in for dobbo before somebody else does
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| The cladding bit makes me chuckle
Did they thnk they were going to paint it
Did it just appear overnight, its not like David Bailey was taking pics every day too
Anyways, step in Dr Allam, he will sort it
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| Quote ="Hutchie"The cladding bit makes me chuckle
Did they thnk they were going to paint it
Did it just appear overnight, its not like David Bailey was taking pics every day too
Anyways, step in Dr Allam, he will sort it'"
when the various people were at meetings, didn't someone think "hang on, where's the turnstiles, and toilets" in fact, didn't the plans have to get approval before being built, in order to get an indicative safety and amenities certificate?
more tax payers money wasted
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| It does make you wonder how much input both financially and in terms of planning that the Rovers board have had/able to have. They knew in December it wasn't going to be ready,they prepared everyone for it by saying at the fans forum that if the worst came to the worst it'd be ready for next season and didn't seem to highlight any issues in their part should that be the case.
The swipe at Hull is just so predictable,he can't help himself. They've had enough handouts and help over the years and only pay a peppercorn rent themselves for Craven Park. It's gonna get messy is this.
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| Quote ="Standee"when the various people were at meetings, didn't someone think "hang on, where's the turnstiles, and [utoilets[/u" in fact, didn't the plans have to get approval before being built, in order to get an indicative safety and amenities certificate?
more tax payers money wasted'"
they are usually first things to consider , in fact its a legal requirement to have one every 60m or something like that and you have to consider the right amount for number of people attending and mix of males/females
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| I honestly originally felt a bit sorry for Rovers, especially as Phil Webbo helped us out (in addition to his assistance to HKR) on the picturegate issue but then Hudge had to spoil it by having a pop at us when its totally unrelated.
Do we know how much they pay rent for Caravan park ? It sounds like the council has assisted both clubs but he is like a kid arguing that one member of the family has got better Christmas presents than him.
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| Hudge said we don't get it free we pay £60,000 a year for the hire of 2600 seat 13 times.
Cost - £60,000
Profit - 2600 x £20 x 13 = £676,000
Hmmm seems like a pretty good deal to me, also I now wonder exactly how much KR contibuted for the stand because it seems not alot from that article.
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| Quote ="Punos"Hudge said we don't get it free we pay £60,000 a year for the hire of 2600 seat 13 times.
Cost - £60,000
Profit - 2600 x £20 x 13 = £676,000
Hmmm seems like a pretty good deal to me, also I now wonder exactly how much KR contibuted for the stand because it seems not alot from that article.'"
His comment that "we'll be paying more annually to the Council then they get from the KC" made me chuckle as well, was meant to be a dig at us, but it will backfire as the SMC are responsible for generating a return, which they were doing right up until a certain someone took over the SMC.
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| what a set of filthy beggars they are.
Never was that phrase more apt.
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| Hudgell can't help himself can he? But when you devorce yourself from the petty one up man ship and look at the bigger picture as Pearson always says a strong Rovers is good income wise for us although it pains me to say it.
(Thats just me talking economics and nothing else )
However if they were expecting a £500,000 advance from the caterers in this years income projections, Mr Allam (sorry the good Doctor Allam) stated last Friday that the £1m was only a loan and they were now paying it back, coupled with falling gates, falling secondary spend, a regular loss of around £500,000, the loss now apparently likely on projected income from seats in the new stand etc. you can see why the Rovers Directors reviewed their positions before carrying on this year can't you? It looks like Timeshare Tony at any cost to me.
As Hutchie says Don't you walk out one morning and say "Doh!!! that first panels blue and hey guys where's the turnsiles" Strange!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Hudgell can't help himself can he? But when you devorce yourself from the petty one up man ship and look at the bigger picture as Pearson always says a strong Rovers is good income wise for us although it pains me to say it.
(Thats just me talking economics and nothing else
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However if they were expecting a £500,000 advance from the caterers in this years income projections, =#FF0000Mr Allam (sorry the good Doctor Allam) stated last Friday that the £1m was only a loan and they were now paying it back, coupled with falling gates, falling secondary spend, a regular loss of around £500,000, the loss now apparently likely on projected income from seats in the new stand etc. you can see why the Rovers Directors reviewed their positions before carrying on this year can't you? It looks like Timeshare Tony at any cost to me.
As Hutchie says Don't you walk out one morning and say "Doh!!! that first panels blue and hey guys where's the turnsiles" Strange!'"
Where did you get that info Wilf?
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