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| Well deserved.
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| Some on here don't rate him
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| Quote ="hull2524"Some on here don't rate him'"
Goes missing in the biggest games that's why
He'd be awesome if we played toulouse or Salford every week
Hardly noticed him on Saturday ( our biggest game of the season by a mile )
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| Quote ="hull2524"Some on here don't rate him'"
His distinct lack of pace has been highlighted now he is playing full back
Talented ball payer but ask yourself would you like a Bevan French or a Jai Field at full back or Jake Connor?
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| If we had either of those two, they would probably an unused sub.
Hard to remember a player in the last 20 years whose game has been more scrutinized, everytime he makes a mistake people mention it or shoes a clip of it, if he plays well it's because the opposition is bad, he has been very good in lots of games, including against top teams and at international level.
He hasn't been great the last two games, but most of the team hasn't, but he gets most of the criticism. Despite this he still help create trys and opportunities, the rest of the big players need to step up and take some pressure off Connor.
You certainly can't criticises his effort the last two games, certainly not our worst player, but he gets all the criticism.
Lack of pace and needs to work on his one on one play with Hodgson, he has proved when playing 6 and centre he can defend.
Positives far outweigh his negatives.
I'd like to see us sign a FB and use Connor at halfback with Truman next season.
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| The problem now is that if Jake doesn't score a try, assist with at least 3 more and kick a 40/20 fans (mainly opposition) will claim he was quiet and had an awful game. He's expected to do more than any other player in the league each and every game.
Heard a bit about how he was invisible at weekend but that's so untrue. He assisted with 1 of our 3 trys (McIntosh) and he was rock solid with any kick that came his way (tough to blame him too much for the McQueen try as that was a lovely set play on the 1st tackle). He was trying long balls to the wingers and flick passes, and the couple I can remember getting dropped where down to the player receiving them, but that tends to make Jake look bad.
Even Lolohea's try, he didn't do anything wrong as such, it's not an error that he is slow, it's just very unfortunate.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"The problem now is that if Jake doesn't score a try, assist with at least 3 more and kick a 40/20 fans (mainly opposition) will claim he was quiet and had an awful game. He's expected to do more than any other player in the league each and every game.
Heard a bit about how he was invisible at weekend but that's so untrue. He assisted with 1 of our 3 trys (McIntosh) and he was rock solid with any kick that came his way (tough to blame him too much for the McQueen try as that was a lovely set play on the 1st tackle). He was trying long balls to the wingers and flick passes, and the couple I can remember getting dropped where down to the player receiving them, but that tends to make Jake look bad.
Even Lolohea's try, he didn't do anything wrong as such, it's not an error that he is slow, it's just very unfortunate.'"
Exactly this. The Lolohea try was a 2 on 1, went towards Tates, who passed. meaning Lolohea had a head start.
Could have done better with the Eden and Field try, but he gets blamed for everything, which isn't fair.
I've seen fans say he lacks effort, which is nonsense.
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| Well deserved for Jake.
Understand that people have their own opinion on him, but I personally don't understand the hate he receives from his own supporters?! sure, Saturday vs Huddersfield he was quiet, but when the people in front of him were giving away penalties which Huddersfield converted into 2 points, basic errors, and lets not even get started on the slow PTB's, what chance has he got? By far the best player in our squad currently, if the people in front of him can set the platform for him on a consistent basis then maybe his game will follow.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Well deserved for Jake.
Understand that people have their own opinion on him, but I personally don't understand the hate he receives from his own supporters?! sure, Saturday vs Huddersfield he was quiet, but when the people in front of him were giving away penalties which Huddersfield converted into 2 points, basic errors, and lets not even get started on the slow PTB's, what chance has he got? By far the best player in our squad currently, if the people in front of him can set the platform for him on a consistent then maybe his game will follow.'"
To be quite honest I think one of the issues we had on Saturday was the unsettled halfback pairings, up until Gale came back we seemed to have some success in the halves with McNamara and Lovodua as they seemed to have gelled well and seemed to enable Connor to do what he does well. With the return of Gale a week earlier and then Reynolds during the game on Saturday it showed that they've played very little as a unit. In hindsight it may have been better to have stuck with what was working with Connor, McNamara & Lovodua.
However the issue of mind set, indiscipline and slow/lazy line speed is always going to have us on the back foot and chasing the game which we know all too well.
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| Connor is the least of our problems, but for some fans on here he gets most of the criticism.
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| Would look great in a Saints or Wigan team creating tries for fun?
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| Player of the month, 4th in Man of Steel standings but just not good enough for some of the amateur coaches on here. It beggars belief.
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| Quote ="davey41"Would look great in a Saints or Wigan team creating tries for fun?'"
Which is just what he had been doing with McNamara and Lovodua as the halfback pairing. McNamara has in the past been criticised and even at times I have been critical of him but he certainly seems to be a player that whilst not doing the flashy stuff or making the eye catching breaks he does the unselfish work which opens the door for Connor to be instrumental.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Which is just what he had been doing with McNamara and Lovodua as the halfback pairing. McNamara has in the past been criticised and even at times I have been critical of him but he certainly seems to be a player that whilst not doing the flashy stuff or making the eye catching breaks he does the unselfish work which opens the door for Connor to be instrumental.'"
McNamara has done a decent job and has improved from last season. He is still only 20 and there's no reason why he shouldn't get even better. I'm not saying he should be in the team week in week out but he has the potential to be a useful squad player.
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| Jake is the best player we’ve had in many years
A future Hall of Fame if we don’t him off with average coaching and he leaves
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| Will always be a rocks n diamonds player, my frustration is I think he could be sooooo much better and maybe hit the NRL - in his defence we are just so reliant on him for attack, which puts him under pressure unlike similar players elsewhere with more strike players.
Credit to him & BH, I do see improvement this year, less rocks & more diamonds. His lack of pace is a problem at full back but lets face it everybody knows it, only a problem when broken from deep & he is defending alone. Field has embarassed MANY this year & is exceptional in SL this year.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If we had either of those two, they would probably an unused sub.
Hard to remember a player in the last 20 years whose game has been more scrutinized, everytime he makes a mistake people mention it or shoes a clip of it, if he plays well it's because the opposition is bad, he has been very good in lots of games, including against top teams and at international level.
He hasn't been great the last two games, but most of the team hasn't, but he gets most of the criticism. Despite this he still help create trys and opportunities, the rest of the big players need to step up and take some pressure off Connor.
You certainly can't criticises his effort the last two games, certainly not our worst player, but he gets all the criticism.
Lack of pace and needs to work on his one on one play with Hodgson, he has proved when playing 6 and centre he can defend.
Positives far outweigh his negatives.
I'd like to see us sign a FB and use Connor at halfback with Truman next season.'"
Your trying to say Connor is better than French and field wow
Our fans really don't help at time hyping up ok players to be the best in super league
And then when we fail come end of the season they are surprised
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| Quote ="Dave K."If we had either of those two, they would probably an unused sub.
Hard to remember a player in the last 20 years whose game has been more scrutinized, everytime he makes a mistake people mention it or shoes a clip of it, if he plays well it's because the opposition is bad, he has been very good in lots of games, including against top teams and at international level.
He hasn't been great the last two games, but most of the team hasn't, but he gets most of the criticism. Despite this he still help create trys and opportunities, the rest of the big players need to step up and take some pressure off Connor.
You certainly can't criticises his effort the last two games, certainly not our worst player, but he gets all the criticism.
Lack of pace and needs to work on his one on one play with Hodgson, he has proved when playing 6 and centre he can defend.
Positives far outweigh his negatives.
I'd like to see us sign a FB and use Connor at halfback with Truman next season.'"
Centre is different your in the line with players around you
Full back your on your own if a player breaks the line and he gets found out defensively far too many times
Lplohea isn't even fast yet Connor made him look like Usain bolt!
Oh and shaul would of 100% caught him
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Centre is different your in the line with players around you
Full back your on your own if a player breaks the line and he gets found out defensively far too many times
Lplohea isn't even fast yet Connor made him look like Usain bolt!
Oh and shaul would of 100% caught him'"
No he wouldn’t, 2 on 1 wins every time. Your letting your hatred of everything FC rule your head again.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor is the least of our problems, but for some fans on here he gets most of the criticism.'"
Cause he looks like a world beater against the small minnow teams
Yet flops big time in the big games as I've said loads of times
Difference is now is more people are now starting to realise it
His defence for a full back is a total embarrassment
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| Behave, Connors quality, made a couple of errors recently but so have a few more. I don't see many chewing Swift up for dropping two walk ins recently, or Griffin questioned due to his repeated sloppy play.
By far and away our most creative outlet, I do not get the negativity towards him, take Connor out and we look blunt Fact.
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| For me and the little I know, Connor is a a maverick and a rare commodity in our staid and predictable game at present. His timing and vision is amazing at times. Every team would love to have one but few teams do. If he has a 'quiet' game it is usually because our players can't read what he is about to do and react too slowly, or the opposition have been overtly preoccupied watching his every move and if the rest can't capitalise on that situation, it is hardly his fault. But I believe all the same that Rovers will undoubtably be discussing 'stopping Connor' right now.
Fact is he is a match winner perhaps he has a bit of an issue with his temperament and his belief that he can do it all on his own, but for me I'd always have him in my team. Incidentally those of us who were honoured to watch him play will no doubt remember that Mick Crane was a similar maverick too and he was slower than the tea lady in his latter years but Bunting used to get his second rowers and his centres to follow him around the field all afternoon and the tries followed. As I say just my views.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"No he wouldn’t, 2 on 1 wins every time. Your letting your hatred of everything FC rule your head again.'"
Who knows if Jamie Shaul would have stopped Lolohea but you can bet he would have been in position to stop the McQueen try
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| Quote ="bonaire"Who knows if Jamie Shaul would have stopped Lolohea but you can bet he would have been in position to stop the McQueen try'"
I'd doubt many fullback would have been able to stop that, kicked early in the tackle, risky play, but perfectly executed.
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