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| Did anybody read his article , player ratings for the season so far?
Poor reporting in my opinion, is he scared to say it how it is, way too nice
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| Yes,I wondered if he had seen any games.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Did anybody read his article , player ratings for the season so far?
Poor reporting in my opinion, is he scared to say it how it is, way too nice'"
I'd have thought the HDM headline " The inside story of Hull KR's 2006 Grand Final win as told by key players" would have caused more upset!
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| I think the local reporting is apart of the problem weve seen recently, all too cosy, no players really being held to account for poor performances.
Must be nice playing e, then picking up the local paper and recieving a 7/10 rating each week.
Need somebody who isnt going to lick, and report it as it is
#fakenews
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"I think the local reporting is apart of the problem weve seen recently, all too cosy, no players really being held to account for poor performances.
Must be nice playing poop, then picking up the local paper and recieving a 7/10 rating each week.
Need somebody who isnt going to booty lick, and report it as it is
#fakenews'"
William isn't a journalist, few who work for Trinity Media could be accused of such, as you say, all too pally.
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| Hdm reporting has always been too cosy
Going back to the days of dick tingle travelling on the team bus.
It’s all about striking a balance.
If the reporter becomes too critical the club will become more defensive in interviews & access to the club news.
The club, players all know they’ve under performed for whatever reason.
My personal opinion is that the players have lived off the 2 cup wins. The coach to an extent
also cut slack to the players out of loyalty.
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| how can you accuse the latest signings of living off the 2 cup wins when they never played in them.
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| I dont think he is.
Big improvement needed from the Hull born contingent as well as Connor and Sneyd.
Mau, Savelio just need to be on the pitch missing way too many games.
Personally think Carlos, Griffin, Satae, Sao are playing very well.
Big question marks over
Bowden, Shaul, Houghton, Lane, Matongo and Fash
Who i believe decisions on replacements need to be made on
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Big question marks over
Bowden, Shaul, Houghton, Lane, Matongo and Fash
Who i believe decisions on replacements need to be made on'"
I suspect that the framework for decision-making on player retention may have shifted significantly.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I suspect that the framework for decision-making on player retention may have shifted significantly.'"
you mean "is he in any of the wedding reception/evening do photo's" criteria has been superceded?
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| Quote ="IR80"you mean "is he in any of the wedding reception/evening do photo's" criteria has been superceded?'"
What I mean is the landscape is fundamentally uncertain. We don't have a benefactor to underwrite us. I wouldn't assume we will retain our best players and will be able to trade up. Everything may continue as before, but I very much doubt it. For all the continued criticism of recent years we may look back with warm nostalgia at them.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What I mean is the landscape is fundamentally uncertain. We don't have a benefactor to underwrite us. I wouldn't assume we will retain our best players and will be able to trade up. Everything may continue as before, but I very much doubt it. For all the continued criticism of recent years we may look back with warm nostalgia at them.'"
has Adam left, did I miss something?
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| Quote ="IR80"has Adam left, did I miss something?'"
I don't think so. But there's a global crisis going on. I think it would be a little naive to think there will be no consequences for the sport or the club.
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| You think wel let our best players go? Which ones?
What do you mean by we wont trade up?
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"You think wel let our best players go? Which ones?
even if we wanted to let them go, who could take them on?
What do you mean by we wont trade up?
will anyone be trading (be it trading players, or even trading as a going concern?)
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| It seems some just have to have their neg fix
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| Quote ="Boardwalkempire2"Hdm reporting has always been too cosy
Going back to the days of dick tingle travelling on the team bus.
It’s all about striking a balance.
If the reporter becomes too critical the club will become more defensive in interviews & access to the club news.
The club, players all know they’ve under performed for whatever reason.
My personal opinion is that the players have lived off the 2 cup wins. The coach to an extent
also cut slack to the players out of loyalty.'"
I don’t know about Richard Tingle being to cozy with his offerings Boardwalk, but I do know he once told me personally, he’d been reporting nearly thirty years, and you only get fifteen for murder. His descriptions of games were far superior than we get now, more descriptive of the actual game, and he summarised extremely well, in a time we’re it was sometimes impossible to travel, but these were the days when journalists reported on matches, and the blame culture of individual players as it is now, was very rare.
The green sports mail, you could relive the game with every pass, every kick, it was an art form, now sadly it’s facebook, emails, and marks out of ten for the last performance, we read WillJackson, who seems to deliver the party line, which Is understandable.
One things for certain this shocking viral killer, as I’ve said before, has surely galvanised the importance of our great game, and how much it means to our particular parish. I’m currently trapped abroad, but on the bright side I’ve not missed a game.
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| Well the NRL players have 2 more pay packets then nothing until end of the year/next year..Clubs over here (Wakey an example) are taking advantage of the govt scheme so that will hopefully steady the ship.We are in a much better position than the NRL are,even more so if it’s true the maximum salary over there for 2021 will be $100k ..Even Fox sports are trying to get out of the broadcast deal
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"You think wel let our best players go? Which ones?
What do you mean by we wont trade up?'"
There seemed to be an implication that Shaul, Houghton, Bowden weren't necessarily good enough for our squad. At the same time we have reduced income and already know we were sretched this year financially before a global pandemic. I can probably find a link to AP's comments pre season on this. We don't have a benefactor to underwrite losses. I'm just saying that with such fundamental uncertainty we shouldn't assume we will be in a position to bin off players like Houghton to being better in, nor that the playing budget for 2021 will match that of this year's. There is comment in the media that the sport itself could be under threat. These are worrying time, Will Jackson's player ratings based on a handful of games notwithstanding.
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| I suppose it depends how you look at it and what you know, i know Houghtons one of our top earners, the contract after his man of steel award put him up their amongst our top earners.
So with us going all cost effective, based on current performances and the fact hes a top earner, he could well find himself one of the first out the door, especially with A ready made replacement in Johnstone already in the building, who will be on a fraction of what Houghtons earning and has argubally performed better.
Id be interested to learn what Shaul currently earns, as if your quite savvy in the market you could argue Evalds could be a more cost effective and better performing replacement. And lets not forget about Connor Wynne who let nobody down when filling in for Shaul, another who will be on a fraction of what Shaul earns i guess.
Bowden, for me theirs still huge question marks over his fitness, i believe his knee still isnt right, probably reflected in the games hes missing inbetween, another who was awarded a contract not long ago, and wont be on pittance, im currently looking at Jack Brown coming through who i believe has it and wants it, looks like a future Hull captain to me with his attitude on the pitch, and once again you could make an argument could he outperform Bowden if given more gametime, and again on a fraction on Bowdens wage.
Id say were very much in a position to bin off the ones on inflated wages, who have either gone stagnant, or are playing crocked, or who may have question marks over mentality and attitude. And heres the thing we can improve while being cost effective
Il say it again depends how you look at it.
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| As a side thought, and forgetting the current global situation, all the succesful sides get their recruitment spot on.
theirs no room for sentiment, its pretty ruthless as soon as a player shows signs of decline in performance or attitude/fitness the shrewd clubs replace them, i think alot are blinded by the club hull mentality and i firmly believe that sentimentality is holding us back
I think Pearson and i have to give Radford credit here, have made some cracking signings, theirs no doubing the ability of Mau, Sao, Savelio, Satae and Fonua as well as others, what we now need to do to reach the next level which is establish ourselfs as a top four club is now improve our judgement/shrewdness on the homegrown Players.
I think we hang onto players too long, and this goes for established players as well as some young players coming through, how can this be rectified answers on a postcard. we d need more depth amd quality coming through from the academy. How do we improve that
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"As a side thought, and forgetting the current global situation, all the succesful sides get their recruitment spot on.
theirs no room for sentiment, its pretty ruthless as soon as a player shows signs of decline in performance or attitude/fitness the shrewd clubs replace them, i think alot are blinded by the club hull mentality and i firmly believe that sentimentality is holding us back
I think Pearson and i have to give Radford credit here, have made some cracking signings, theirs no doubing the ability of Mau, Sao, Savelio, Satae and Fonua as well as others, what we now need to do to reach the next level which is establish ourselfs as a top four club is now improve our judgement/shrewdness on the homegrown Players.
I think we hang onto players too long, and this goes for established players as well as some young players coming through, how can this be rectified answers on a postcard. we d need more depth amd quality coming through from the academy. How do we improve that'"
agree 100%, a number of players retained because they are Hull lads or played in the CC wins, or both. Improving the academy would start with employing coaches etc. purely on merit, not "local connection".
BUT, there are way more important things than RL right now.
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| There are more important things going on......but i dont think that should stop people discussing our club. Do we all fall into silence because of the virus
I for one quite enjoy analysing and giving thought to how our club can improve, or where it could of done better.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"There are more important things going on......but i dont think that should stop people discussing our club. Do we all fall into silence because of the virus
I for one quite enjoy analysing and giving thought to how our club can improve, or where it could of done better.'"
No, not at all, it is good to be discussing things for the future.
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| I see the clubs furloughed all the staff, good move hopefully ease some financial strain
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