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| Looks like last year's success on the pitch has reaped financial rewards with the club posting a profit of £269,574 (2015 was a loss of £73,246). P&L reserve still a very big number with a minus in front of it, but must be some welcome respite for AP.
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| Very good news and it shows the benefit of a Wembley final. Hopefully continued finals and increased attendances will further improve the club's finances.
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| Good news BUT if we hadent made Wembley we'd have only just scraped breakeven, which shows theres still work to be done in crowd growth and other income. Pearson has stated they are considering moving offices and retail stores which should help (we dont know if they pay to rent the offices at the KCOM or not)
Also the loss of the derby game will have an impact.
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| But the 25% back on sales for away games will over a season be a help too in a smaller way and Yes we do pay rent.
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| The attendance at last year's home derby was 17,481 which was the lowest since their promotion so although we will take a hit without them lot in Super League it's probably not too significant. Good form should hopefully increase attendances to futher reduce any impact.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The attendance at last year's home derby was 17,481 which was the lowest since their promotion so although we will take a hit without them lot in Super League it's probably not too significant. Good form should hopefully increase attendances to futher reduce any impact.'"
yet if we get 1000 more fans for every home game than last season we have made up on the derby loss
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| Quote ="number 6"yet if we get 1000 more fans for every home game than last season we have made up on the derby loss'"
Not even that really
Get 10 say vs leigh (rovers replacement) then we're only looking for 7 over the year
Cats game has already found 2 on its fixture from last year
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Not even that really
Get 10 say vs leigh (rovers replacement) then we're only looking for 7 over the year
Cats game has already found 2 on its fixture from last year'"
i wouldnt count the catalan game due to the pass holders ticket offer
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"But the 25% back on sales for away games will over a season be a help too in a smaller way and Yes we do pay rent.'"
That 25% could be a massive boost tbh
4k at cas for example is possible. An additional 15% is a big boost
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"That 25% could be a massive boost tbh
4k at cas for example is possible. An additional 15% is a big boost'"
While its a good bonus, not everyone will buy direct from the club, i bought my Wakefield tickets off their website and printed at home, because I can't get to the KCOM midweek to buy tickets.
good move from the RFL though, before they introduced the current 10% rate clubs websites barely even gave Away games a mention apart from the match squads and the score, now their is an incentive for clubs to market away fixtures too.
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| Quote ="number 6"i wouldnt count the catalan game due to the pass holders ticket offer'"
True. But still a core of about 10k . So not needing to find too much to make up rovers numbers. Rovers won't be missed greatly this year at all as it's looking
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| Quote ="UllFC"Good news BUT i[uf we hadent made Wembley we'd have only just scraped breakeven[/u, which shows theres still work to be done in crowd growth and other income. Pearson has stated they are considering moving offices and retail stores which should help (we dont know if they pay to rent the offices at the KCOM or not)
Also the loss of the derby game will have an impact.'"
I don't think you can say that categorically. We're £343k up year over year and running a U23s set-up. It's not as if all costs are fixed and we simply bank any Wembley upside, decisions will be made flexibly. There's always work to do to optimise income. This is a big season for the club in this respect IMO. For most fans we had false dawns in 91 and 05/6, can 16 success be built upon? If so there's a chance of stepping up numbers for 2018 and beyond.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"True. But still a core of about 10k . So not needing to find too much to make up rovers numbers. Rovers won't be missed greatly this year at all as it's looking'"
rovers who???
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think you can say that categorically. We're £343k up year over year and running a U23s set-up. It's not as if all costs are fixed and we simply bank any Wembley upside, decisions will be made flexibly. There's always work to do to optimise income. This is a big season for the club in this respect IMO. For most fans we had false dawns in 91 and 05/6, can 16 success be built upon? If so there's a chance of stepping up numbers for 2018 and beyond.'"
Oh yes we're experienced in self-destruction after a bit of success, but I have faith that Pearson will manage us sensibly, and we won't have to selling off our best players to stay afloat. I also think Motu has done a good job with the recruitment, unlike post 2006 when we gradually lost the likes of Swain, Cooke, Brough, Carvell and replaced them with (mostly) injury wrecks, aussie plodders and young kids on loan from Leeds.
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| Quote ="UllFC"While its a good bonus, not everyone will buy direct from the club, i bought my Wakefield tickets off their website and printed at home, because I can't get to the KCOM midweek to buy tickets.
good move from the RFL though, before they introduced the current 10% rate clubs websites barely even gave Away games a mention apart from the match squads and the score, now their is an incentive for clubs to market away fixtures too.'"
Most do though. Wakey sent out over 2k.
25% of over 2k over 10% is a good few thousand extra to us. Those kind of followings will be replicated several times over the year. Cas-especially. .Leeds..And even cross county if day/none sky. Lot of money over a season to us. Really pleased with it. Really do have a sense of being ripped off when we can take 1.5/2k to saints..salford and wire for games and wire for example don't even manage 1k to see LLS Lifted (effectively a final)
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| Quote ="UllFC"Oh yes we're experienced in self-destruction after a bit of success, but I have faith that Pearson will manage us sensibly, and we won't have to selling off our best players to stay afloat. I also think Motu has done a good job with the recruitment, unlike post 2006 when we gradually lost the likes of Swain, Cooke, Brough, Carvell and replaced them with (mostly) injury wrecks, aussie plodders and young kids on loan from Leeds.'"
Issue will be replacing Ellis and Mini like for like, but again a successful season would make all the difference in terms of how players regard Hull as a destination.
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| Thought I read this thread as it appeared to be good news about the club! Only fellow FC fans could make me wonder if it really is!!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Thought I read this thread as it appeared to be good news about the club! Only fellow FC fans could make me wonder if it really is!!'"
Indeed, you'd have to wonder what some would think constituted a good result
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| Quote ="UllFC"Good news BUT if we hadent made Wembley we'd have only just scraped breakeven, which shows theres still work to be done in crowd growth and other income. Pearson has stated they are considering moving offices and retail stores which should help (we dont know if they pay to rent the offices at the KCOM or not)
Also the loss of the derby game will have an impact.'"
I think if you hadn't won at Wembley you would have made the grand final it seemed a case of job done once you'd won the challenge cup
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I think if you hadn't won at Wembley you would have made the grand final [uit seemed a case of job done[/u once you'd won the challenge cup'"
Don't know what you mean
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| to compensate for the loss of the derby, i would like to see Hull promote one of the bigger games as a 'challenge 20k' type game, where there is a big promotion to break the 20k barrier. wigan do something similar to this i believe. even if we don't get 20k it should result in a bigger than average crowd. the trick is to market one that isn't on sky, something like hull v cas or hull v leeds, where we can also tempt a decent away follwing
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| Quote ="the artist"to compensate for the loss of the derby, i would like to see Hull promote one of the bigger games as a 'challenge 20k' type game, where there is a big promotion to break the 20k barrier. wigan do something similar to this i believe. even if we don't get 20k it should result in a bigger than average crowd. the trick is to market one that isn't on sky, something like hull v cas or hull v leeds, where we can also tempt a decent away follwing'"
good idea, id go for the fc v leeds game as our game v cas on a saturday is on tv i believe
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| Quote ="UllFC"Good news BUT if we hadent made Wembley we'd have only just scraped breakeven, which shows theres still work to be done in crowd growth and other income. Pearson has stated they are considering moving offices and retail stores which should help (we dont know if they pay to rent the offices at the KCOM or not)
What an odd comment...we DID make Wembley thus the books balance accordingly. What if we had made Old Trafford?, what if my aunt had been born a man?, what if ....
Also the loss of the derby game will have an impact.'"
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| Quote ="spegs"'"
Completely missed my point, what I meant was there is still work to be done to get revenue and profit up, Pearson has made good progress but it isn't job done as yet. You can't run a business on the basis that you may make a final, you can get a bad cup draw, an injury crisis, a sickness bug in camp on the eve of the semi final etc we need to get to a point where we are making a decent profit just from a standard final-less year.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Completely missed my point, what I meant was there is still work to be done to get revenue and profit up, Pearson has made good progress but it isn't job done as yet. You can't run a business on the basis that you may make a final, you can get a bad cup draw, an injury crisis, a sickness bug in camp on the eve of the semi final etc[u we need to get to a point where we are making a decent profit just from a standard final-less year.[/u'"
How many clubs that don't own their own grounds manage this?
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