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| 13 games to go and we probably need to win 6 of them at least to make the 8. Can we do it? Personally I don't see it and think we'l end up 10th or 11th (Hopefully 10th)
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| I know nothing's a given but should we win the game in hand against Wakefield then we would be sitting in the top 8 as we speak , surely we can't get much worse than we have been can we (touch wood) . So things can only get better , must win games against wakey x2 , cats , Cas , Widnes , Kr x2
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I know nothing's a given but should we win the game in hand against Wakefield then we would be sitting in the top 8 as we speak , surely we can't get much worse than we have been can we (touch wood) . So things can only get better , must win games against wakey x2 , cats , Cas , Widnes , Kr x2'"
Only 4 home games though and 2 of those wigan and saints who are both looking better as the weeks go on.
Can't see us winning more than 4 more games
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Only 4 home games though and 2 of those wigan and saints who are both looking better as the weeks go on.
Can't see us winning more than 4 more games'"
Wouldn't surprise me if we won more games away from the kc this season tbh Jake
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Wouldn't surprise me if we won more games away from the kc this season tbh Jake'"
Maybe the players are more relaxed on the road with less weight of expectation on their shoulders. I desperately hope we do make the 8, 9th or 10 if not. 11th or 12th would put us in a bad place IMO
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| no, not good enough coaching wise and player wise, weak in the centres and and we all know how clueless we are attacking
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| I'm not sure we will, I'm gonna plump for 9th which will be fairly disappointing..
Had a quick word with Gaz Ellis Friday night and it'll be interesting as to whether he'll be back for the Wires games or brought back for our Challenge Cup tie.
Pearson publicly targetted a Challenge Cup final in season 2013 but that was obviously before the relevance of the new format in SL.
As said before I think if we can beat Cas and get a favourable Quarter Final draw we'll be in a semi, a big day out, and within touching distance of Wembley.
Maybe Adam thinks that will placate some of our fan base although it's a fairly risky strategy?
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| Until we learn.... how to score tries... nope.
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| 11 games left with more than likely 6 wins needed.No chance
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| It's all down to our attack for me. In most games we're conceding few enough points to win but our non existent attacking is ensuring we lose. If (and it's a big If) we can start to score some tries then we can win enough. 2 games against wakey, 2 against rovers, home game against cas and a win at widnes or les cats are all winnable
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| You would have to say no, based on the season so far and it will need a massive improvement in all of our attacking play, I can't even really say that I have seen signs of our great attacking play.
Would need to win 2/3 SL games IMO to still have a chance.
Warrington are certainly beatable, they only beat Widnes by a last minute try, got to really go at them.
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| Put it this way - if a bookies were offering odds on Hull to make the top 8 or to be in the bottom 2 - I know which one would
be well odds on!
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| Well I say we will. Can't beat a bit of blind optimism
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| Quote ="lummy"Put it this way - if a bookies were offering odds on Hull to make the top 8 or to be in the bottom 2 - I know which one would
be well odds on!'"
Favourites to finish bottom 3 with most bookies as far as i know.
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| In terms of points available and the current state of the bottom six, there is still all to play for.
However, even when we win, we fail to convince that we are anything other than one of the four to drop down come August.
Predicting anything in 2015 is proving to be hazardous, but my feeling is we'll be 10th or 11th come the split.
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| Going to be really close IMO. I think the cut-off may be around 20 points, so 5-6 wins should be enough. On the face of it, we have 7 games we should really be looking at for wins (Rovers twice, Wakey twice, Widnes, Cas and Catalan). Claiming results in those will be crucial because it takes points away from our rivals at the same time. If we can get an unexpected result elsewhere, can we bat at 71% in those 7 games? Were we to lose more than 2 of those I think it will be difficult.
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| second worst attack in the league, doesn't look like we have a clue in general...I'd say no, we will not make the top 8. I think bottom 3 for us this season.
going from 2 top 6 finished and a cc final to bottom 3 in last 2 season (if that's where we finish this season) I think radders is doing a cracking job
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| I would have to say that on current form we wont make the top 8 and will have to really raise our game if we are to do so.
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| For me its a NO purely and simply because we look so clueless when it comes to scoring.
Defence is ok but our toothless attack and the total lack of options/angled runners/dummy runners and any attacking flair is just non existant and that is why we won't. We have players who have the ability to off load but just dont use this to any advantage and support play and running onto the ball seems to be a no no as we are only to happy to receive the ball whilst stood. For mine Radford is just reading out of the Bradford Bulls play book from 2K onwards and taking the club even further backwards than we were last season.
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| Quote ="Chris71"For me its a NO purely and simply because we look so clueless when it comes to scoring.
Defence is ok but our toothless attack and the total lack of options/angled runners/dummy runners and any attacking flair is just non existant and that is why we won't. We have players who have the ability to off load but just dont use this to any advantage and support play and running onto the ball seems to be a no no as we are only to happy to receive the ball whilst stood. For mine Radford is just reading out of the Bradford Bulls play book from 2K onwards and taking the club even further backwards than we were last season.
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So your trying to tell us that Radford tells the players not to back up?not to run on to the ball? last season we scored more points then we did in 2013 under gentle. Yes we lack the things you say but what your saying is basic rugby something every player is taught from schoolboy age ,if you think that Radford is stopping them from doing the basics and its not the players then your kidding yourself
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"But but but when Ellis comes back were gonna become world beaters
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More voices in your head?
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"So your trying to tell us that Radford tells the players not to back up?not to run on to the ball? last season we scored more points then we did in 2013 under gentle. Yes we lack the things you say but what your saying is basic rugby something every player is taught from schoolboy age ,if you think that Radford is stopping them from doing the basics and its not the players then your kidding yourself'"
There's a difference between stopping someone doing something and actively encouraging it through coaching and training. It's clear we don't do it as a team Virtually no one in the squad does it so are you saying this is some kind of collective memory loss, players lacking in ability (if it is then who has recruited them?) or simply them deciding not to do it?
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| I'm going to say yes - just
My logic is we can't be any worse than the first half of the season and only a marginal improvement should see us sneak 8th? If the Noble rumour is true then that could be worth a few points to.
I fully expect a reaction against KR in the next game and think after Friday (where I don't expect a result) the next 3 against Saints, KR & Widnes are winnable?
I also get the feeling the KR away pen-ultimate game will have a say on both clubs finishing top 8.
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