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| listening to radford on sports talk last night when asked about when biggs might arrive he stated the biggs case was a funny situation as even if he was here now having never played rugby league he would have so much to learn he probaly would'nt feature until half way through season.with this in mind if he does'nt arrive until may which looks more likely given 6 nations situation will he even play next season,i originally thought he was worth a risk but this was before i knew he would'nt be here for beginning of year.although long term might be a good signing is he a wasted signing for 2014.would of been more exited if announced in may and he came in straight away.any games played this season would of then felt like a bonus.after all we signined arundle early 2012 for 2013 season.can't believe we'v commited cap money on a player that may not feature until very late in year
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| Don't think he's on the cap this year.
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| He isn't on the cap, and won't start getting paid until his contract with Bath has ended.
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| There is not that much difference between a union winger and a league winger, and Radford will have been saying a lot of that to either take any pressure off Biggs or to goad Biggs into proving him wrong and showing he can pick it up a lot quicker.
Biggs also has the advantage of having watched a lot of RL so it wont be alien to him.
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| oh yer,totally forgot about cap money regarding union players.point taken.still feel disappointed may not see him for quite some time though.now crookes is injured and lineham recovering from operation (not sure if he's back in full training yet) and shaul stating he only wants to play full back could we maybe see ben crooks/whiting on wing.i know talanoa due here soon but if lineham not ready we'll still be winger short
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| Quote ="hullbg"There is not that much difference between a union winger and a league winger, and Radford will have been saying a lot of that to either take any pressure off Biggs or to goad Biggs into proving him wrong and showing he can pick it up a lot quicker.
Biggs also has the advantage of having watched a lot of RL so it wont be alien to him.'"
good point.i think the kick pressure is the hardest part of game now.kicks to the corner are a major part of a teams attack and to take a ball above a defender like richards/hall/j monaghan can is a massive plus for any team.more importantly a winger who can defend a high kick is just as important imho
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| do you remember Gareth Thomas' s first game of league for Celtic? took his first drive in against Les Cats and got knocked out lol. im not saying that will happen to Ronnie Biggs but it just shows that there's a difference in the two codes.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"do you remember Gareth Thomas' s first game of league for Celtic? took his first drive in against Les Cats and got knocked out lol. im not saying that will happen to Ronnie Biggs but it just shows that there's a difference in the two codes.'"
Jesus Christ you're absolutely fluent in !!!
Remember John Gallaghers, John Fallons or Craig Innes's debuts for Leeds? Remember Tuigamala's debut? Remember Paul Sterling or Leroy McKenzies debuts for Hull? I can actually think of loads and loads more examples, but I realize I'm speaking to a lobotomised troll, that probably didn't even watch Rugby when any of the players I've mentioned played!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Jesus Christ you're absolutely fluent in rubbish!!!
Remember John Gallaghers, John Fallons or Craig Innes's debuts for Leeds? Remember Tuigamala's debut? Remember Paul Sterling or Leroy McKenzies debuts for Hull? I can actually think of loads and loads more examples, but I realize I'm speaking to a lobotomised troll, that probably didn't even watch Rugby when any of the players I've mentioned played!'"
easy tiger. didn't realise id said something so upsetting. I was just talking on the point of Biggs needing time to get up to speed.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"easy tiger. didn't realise id said something so upsetting. I was just talking on the point of Biggs needing time to get up to speed.'"
Biggs is far, far more aquainted to RL than Thomas was. He may not have played it (at least not to a decent level) but he's watched it all his life.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Biggs is far, far more aquainted to RL than Thomas was. He may not have played it (at least not to a decent level) but he's watched it all his life.'"
I've watched snooker since I was a lad but I'm still fecking useless at it
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I've watched snooker since I was a lad but I'm still fecking useless at it'"
But if you'd played pool to a national level but had never played snooker you'd probably pick it up fairly quickly.
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| For me personally it is a baffling signing.
A 31 year old union convert not available til may possibly.
I cant see how this represents squad progression or value for money for when we do start paying him.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"But if you'd played pool to a national level but had never played snooker you'd probably pick it up fairly quickly.'"
I think you're underestimating how difficult the transition is
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| What a load of rubbish.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"For me personally it is a baffling signing.
A 31 year old union convert not available til may possibly.
I cant see how this represents squad progression or value for money for when we do start paying him.'"
The signing has been made to try and make the most of the salary cap, that seems to be the official line at least.
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| He was not a radders signing but he seems to think he will go well once he's upto speed, strong with the ball in hand & a good defender, as for people saying he will struggle to make the switch this is stupid players have coped very well going either way.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He was not a radders signing but he seems to think he will go well once he's upto speed, strong with the ball in hand & a good defender, as for people saying he will struggle to make the switch this is stupid players have coped very well going either way.'"
Clive Sullivan did alright I seem to remember.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He was not a radders signing but he seems to think he will go well once he's upto speed, strong with the ball in hand & a good defender, as for people saying he will struggle to make the switch this is stupid players have coped very well going either way.'"
And on the flip side some haven't coped well so bit of a daft comment to make.
He is very much an unknown quantity in league so only time will tell.
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| Quote ="hullbg"The signing has been made to try and make the most of the salary cap, that seems to be the official line at least.'"
I agree but again I don't believe it represents value for me.
Just because we have cap space doesn't mean we have to unnecessarily spend it.
Almost like money burning a hole in your pocket syndrome.
I accept its not Radders' signing and maybe one he would not have made but he at least pubicly has to appear positive about it.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"And on the flip side some haven't coped well so bit of a daft comment to make.
He is very much an unknown quantity in league so only time will tell.'"
Aslong as he can attack & defend wants to train right look after himself he will be ok, hes only playing wing not a pivotal position, so why was it a daft comment?
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| It was Radford decision to sign Biggs, gentle did enquire, but he signed when radford was in charge.
Not sure why people are moaning, he doesn't count on the cap so it is a no lost situation, he is coming right reasons also, bet could have earnt more money in Union than in League.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It was Radford decision to sign Biggs, gentle did enquire, but he signed when radford was in charge.
Not sure why people are moaning, he doesn't count on the cap so it is a no lost situation, he is coming right reasons also, bet could have earnt more money in Union than in League.'"
Ask him next time you speak to him it was all done by bomber, although it was announced after radders took charge.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Aslong as he can attack & defend wants to train right look after himself he will be ok, hes only playing wing not a pivotal position, so why was it a daft comment?'"
Which he can mate. My only worry is his height. At 5,10 he's not the biggest but we'll see on that one.
I've followed his career for years and I've always thought his style is so suited for league. I for one can't wait to see him at the KC.
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