Preseason friendlies are not about win, lose or draw.

They are about the next stage in development, preparation and ‘a warm up’

Personally, I am quite pleased that Gentle did not get sucked in to the media hype of, the false importance of winning the preseason ‘friendly’ derby.
You don’t go into a match without a proper warm up, and the same applies to a hard season ahead of you. You must build up speed, not go all out and get unnecessary injuries, and then fade out quickly before the finishing post.

Some have pointed out that KR out enthused, and had more desire and compassion to win. Whilst I would expect their warm up and preparations, to have been upped from ours, I think they may have overcooked and it cost and will cost them when it most matters.

According to an interview with Gentle, the team/squad was going into this game as if it was a SL fixture.

they probably did approach it in the same way, but the fact it was our first game probably had an impact.

What would you rather have, won a friendly at a fairly substantial cost in terms of injuries, or lost a friendly and have your full squad available for when the real games start?

It all helps to sell tickets!!

Talk of training the house down, been way ahead of schedule in pre-season, once again we have heard all these stories and the fact Gentle came out and said how seriously they was taking the game.

Fairly substantial loss?

Very bad news regarding Beaumont(sp) but IMO highly unlikely to feature much this season.

Galea is a loss of course but sounds like its a short/medium term injury, plus S/R is probably our strongest part of the squad.

Hodgson sounds like he may be back for the opener.

I think our pre-season has gone well and loads to be positive about! Seems like we have got over the big loss to Fev!

win, tight or draw?

I think you meant to say win, lose or draw unless you were talking about the squad having an unfortunate case of the trots lol

The injuries incurred by Rovers would have happened regardless of the intensity which the team played the game, or indeed the opposition. It's naff to lose players to injury, even more naff to lose them in a pre-season game.

I'm struggling to understand how (according to to OP) our preparations "will cost us when it matters".

Rationalising, innit?

Bent ref, try-hard opposition, pacing ourselves and so on.

The OP is right - the result doesn't matter. The analysis that it arose from Rovers extra enthusiasm, because after all they're obviously , and that that Herculean effort contributed to injuries, I would view as undermining a legitimate point.

Whilst I agree with the statement given as the title of this thread, derbies are different. Derbies are about winning. As the great man wrote in this weeks diary "Derby's are important".

I wouldn't want to lose by 50, because that would damage confidence. But if we'd gone down by 6 and come through with a clean bill of health, I'd have been very happy with that.

Well winning may be important to some, but if so then derbies should never be a preseason friendly, or at least never your first friendly.

I'm personally starting to get derby burnout. When we were in different divisions I was all for the pre-season 'friendly'. However, now that we have competitive derbies, and at least 3 per season at that, I think we should ditch it. I understand why it's still chosen (money), but in all honesty I'd rather we play someone else. A fair bit of the ferocity of over-reaction is almost certainly down to identity of the opposition, in which case it has overshadowed what purpose the game was really supposed to serve.

I feel the same tbh, I no longer work with any dobbins so do not even get the banter. Don't get me wrong I suppose it is nice to get the win but personally this season I think I would be more excited about beating Leeds!

Agree with that, suppose in the heat of the game it seemed to matter (as it did to FC when they beat us in the RH testimonial a couple of years ago) and the victory against the old enemy is always sweeter than if we'd turned over someone like Cas in a preseason game but in the cold light of day its irrelevant.

As a run out it gives an added intensity to the preseason as I'm sure the teams realise it means a bit more to the fans but it probably detracts from the real derbies (and the extra one for magic) and they should be kept a bit more special by being less of them.

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They are spoiling the event IMO. I was the wrong match with 3 more fixtures already to go at in the season. Worse still the teams weren't even at the same stage of their preparation. Undervalues the fixture completely and it's the reason I didn't go this week. Looking forward to next week's game instead.

I think Bratfud will run you ragged.

I can't believe you called me the c-word for squabbling in Tokelau!

After all thats gone on at the club in recent years i dont understand what the club was thinking by having a friendly against our most hated Neighbours and making it our first hit out is even more stupid imo. Yes each club has raised £50K+ but the down side is Rovers got a load of injuries and we ended up looking no better than we have done for four years because it was too early (I hope) in our preperations for the new season meaning the stay away supported like myself may think twice about spending loads of money supporting the club again when it still seems to be the same cack on the field as before.

If ever there was a must win friendly its against Bradford because if we dont then i can seriously see myself (and five more) staying away from the Warrington fixture which was gonna be our first game back and instead waiting and seeing what happens.

I will put my hand up and say being beat by Rovers in any game miffs me, but on the other side of the coin I could never get excited about friendlies in rugby or football, and for that reason alone I stayed away.(good job as it happens.

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Bizarrely, I've been to Tokelau!



See you next Tuesday (the one after the the one after the next, after that), Valentine's ball?

Its all part of a cunning plan,can`t you see that??
We play crap in the pre season, lull the opposition into thinking we are pants,then unleash ourselves on S.L. like a coiled spring.

Hope so, not a lot to be gained meeting an undercooked team in a friendly.

You're probably the most even-tempered person on here, so I'm wondering what you're like when miffed - pursed lips and a frown, but cheering up quickly when you recall you've got something nice in for your dinner, is how I imagine it.

You`ve met me then?