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| Why did Agar play him in the reserves for the second week running?
Finally fit from the "injury that just wouldn't heal" and we still don't see our only winger on the wing, freeing up one of our few brains in Whiting to be utilised elsewhere. Am now convinced there is more to this than meets the eye.
Can anyone enlighten?
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| Can't recall any of our other senior players playing 20s before coming back. I don't think Agar likes him. Sounds like they've had a falling out?
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| He asked to play in under 20's last week I believe and has Signed for Salford for 2011 I heard!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He asked to play in under 20's last week I believe and has Signed for Salford for 2011 I heard!'"
That's good news IMO, get Meli in.
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| It is a pathetic decision to leave him out!!
The night was full of pathetic decisions..
1.The bench
2.Horney going on as a 9
3.Turner subbed (that one really piised me off... )
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He asked to play in under 20's last week I believe and has Signed for Salford for 2011 I heard!'"
Correct Wilf. On his way to Salford
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He asked to play in under 20's last week I believe and has Signed for Salford for 2011 I heard!'"
He'll still give 100% though
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He'll still give 100% though'"
Which is about 150% more more Washbrook is capable of.
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| I don't think Agar likes him, either. You only have to remember the end of last season when he won the fans' POTS award by a country mile but the recognition in terms of awards from the club was nada. Were we all wrong, then?
If it is a case of Agar just not liking him then I find this an astonishing decision by a coach with a very imbalanced side in terms of strength between forwards and backs. It's simply criminal to keep the only specialised winger we have on the sidelines when we are desperate for creative play inside. Leaving the slowest player in the squad on the wing who also has the rugby brain to make something happen where it's needed is not a decision I'd expect a professional coach to make if he had a choice?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He'll still give 100% though'"
Agree - he should be playing regardless of what's happening next year.
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| The seeds of his departure were sown last season at Catalans when Calders was dropped to bring back Tom Briscoe after weeks out injured.
We will certainly miss his enthusiasm.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Can't recall any of our other senior players playing 20s before coming back. I don't think Agar likes him. Sounds like they've had a falling out?'"
Must have. Horne walked straight back in too. Will Ogre and Moa have to play 20s before they come back?
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| I like Calders
It is pathetic because we are certainly going to need him on Thursday, KR like to move the ball and Calders speed and defensive work is what we need
Unless he asked to go in the 20s to get his fitness ready for the derby
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I don't think Agar likes him, either. You only have to remember the end of last season when he won the fans' POTS award by a country mile but the recognition in terms of awards from the club was nada. Were we all wrong, then?
If it is a case of Agar just not liking him then I find this an astonishing decision by a coach with a very imbalanced side in terms of strength between forwards and backs. It's simply criminal to keep the only specialised winger we have on the sidelines when we are desperate for creative play inside. Leaving the slowest player in the squad on the wing who also has the rugby brain to make something happen where it's needed is not a decision I'd expect a professional coach to make if he had a choice?'"
The club tried to offload him backend of last season but there was no takers
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| So as it stands our only specialist wingers for 2011 are a 17 year old kid with one SL appearance and a player who is on a dual contract at York.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So as it stands our only specialist wingers for 2011 are a 17 year old kid with one SL appearance and a player who is on a dual contract at York.'"
The future's bright...
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So as it stands our only specialist wingers for 2011 are a 17 year old kid with one SL appearance and a player who is on a dual contract at York.'"
Don't think Tuffour is being retained for next season either.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I don't think Agar likes him, either. You only have to remember the end of last season when he won the fans' POTS award by a country mile but the recognition in terms of awards from the club was nada. Were we all wrong, then?
If it is a case of Agar just not liking him then I find this an astonishing decision by a coach with a very imbalanced side in terms of strength between forwards and backs. It's simply criminal to keep the only specialised winger we have on the sidelines when we are desperate for creative play inside. Leaving the slowest player in the squad on the wing who also has the rugby brain to make something happen where it's needed is not a decision I'd expect a professional coach to make if he had a choice?'"
Agar is an imbecile.
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| Ridiculous, he was one of the only players to put any effort in last season, and is at least a SL standard winger, if not a international standard on a good day.
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| He's enthusiastic, no wonder agar doesn't like him
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| I don't know if it has anything to do with it but he had a fallout with the club a few weeks ago and was sent home for a few days.
Not too bothered that he is going, good when he has been on the pitch but that has been too infrequent.
Meli would offer far more.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He's enthusiastic, no wonder agar doesn't like him'"
and you know that do you?
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| Are people not counting Briscoe as a winger, he has played there his full SL career and plays there for his country, I think of him as a winger now.
If Calderwood goes Hull will bring in a winger, Meli is a much better winger than Calderwood, he would suit our style more and he has more power.
Not sure about signing Meli though, would be expensive and would see us sign another overseas player which I dont like, much rather us look to sign a young English winger.
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| Quote ="wolfie"and you know that do you?'"
You know otherwise do you?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Are people not counting Briscoe as a winger, he has played there his full SL career and plays there for his country, I think of him as a winger now.
If Calderwood goes Hull will bring in a winger, Meli is a much better winger than Calderwood, he would suit our style more and he has more power.
Not sure about signing Meli though, would be expensive and would see us sign another overseas player which I dont like, much rather us look to sign a young English winger.'"
Main issue for me with meli is his age. Another 30+ player is not what we need. Add in the fact that saints don't let good players go and the saints fans think he's gash and the signs aren't great. He'll be another blacklock or sing and we'll hardly see him on the pitch
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