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| We hadn't got rid of Peter Sharp now, for all the slaters I would have Sharp over Agar & his waste of an assistant any day.
Yes we didn't have a great start to last season but did it improve any? I'd go as far as to say we have gone backwards from the standard under Sharp by quite a large margin.
So when Agar gets the boot that will be 5 coaches in the space of 7 years.
It's no surprise that we are in the state were in with the turnover so high in the key position in the club.
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| Should never have got rid of Kear!
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| Should have replaced mcrae with a better coach, not progressively worse ones
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| Quote ="Joe Cool"Should never have got rid of Kear!'"
Thats Wakeys job now.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Should have replaced mcrae with a better coach, not progressively worse ones'"
At this moment,I would take Bomber back right now.
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| If we had invested ina good coach when McRae left we'd have won Super League by now.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Should have replaced mcrae with a better coach, not progressively worse ones'"
That's the one.
Just because a replacement does a worse job, doesn't mean the man before was any good. I'd say the decisions to sack have been correct, we just still don't get it right with appointments.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"If we had invested ina good coach when McRae left we'd have won Super League by now.'" Agreed 2004 was probably the best Hull team imo for a generation...
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"We hadn't got rid of Peter Sharp now, for all the slaters I would have Sharp over Agar & his waste of an assistant any day.
Yes we didn't have a great start to last season but did it improve any? I'd go as far as to say we have gone backwards from the standard under Sharp by quite a large margin.
So when Agar gets the boot that will be 5 coaches in the space of 7 years.
It's no surprise that we are in the state were in with the turnover so high in the key position in the club.'"
We need a senior Australian coach but the board won't spend the money unfortunately. Would love to know how much it would cost to get Hasler or Murray for example, in the context of the savings we've made on Crocker,Dykes, Carvell etc.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"We hadn't got rid of Peter Sharp now, for all the slaters I would have Sharp over Agar & his waste of an assistant any day.
Yes we didn't have a great start to last season but did it improve any? I'd go as far as to say we have gone backwards from the standard under Sharp by quite a large margin.
So when Agar gets the boot that will be 5 coaches in the space of 7 years.
It's no surprise that we are in the state were in with the turnover so high in the key position in the club.'"
Feel the same as you I made the comment myself last week that we got rid of Peter and I'm sfraid we have gone even further backwards since
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Should have replaced mcrae with a better coach, not progressively worse ones'"
Quote ="pmarrow"If we had invested ina good coach when McRae left we'd have won Super League by now.'"
Agree with both comments.
And Kear was never the answer - as Wakey are finding out now.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We need a senior Australian coach but the board won't spend the money unfortunately. Would love to know how much it would cost to get Hasler or Murray for example, in the context of the savings we've made on Crocker,Dykes, Carvell etc.'"
It's short sighted. A successful side would see us averaging 15,000+ putting significant amounts of extra revenue into the pot whilst pretty much every other cost would remain the same. No brainer for me
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"That's the one.
Just because a replacement does a worse job, doesn't mean the man before was any good. I'd say the decisions to sack have been correct, we just still don't get it right with appointments.'"
Thats because the club wont pay the money for a good top class coach. just like they wont pay the money for a top class scrum half (or any player for that matter).
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's short sighted. A successful side would see us averaging 15,000+ putting significant amounts of extra revenue into the pot whilst pretty much every other cost would remain the same. No brainer for me'"
The worst scenario for me would be sacking Agar and giving Sharp the head coach job on a 2 year deal.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The worst scenario for me would be sacking Agar and giving Sharp the head coach job on a 2 year deal.'"
The funny thing is though, you know thats what will happen.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"The funny thing is though, you know thats what will happen.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Correct.
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We know this because the board know that they'll still be able to muster over 10000 at home.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"We know this because the board know that they'll still be able to muster over 10000 at home.
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I wouldn't be so sure of that TBH.
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| PS should have seen the season out and then a new coach and backroom staff appointed straight away.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I wouldn't be so sure of that TBH.'"
I think most people will still go and put up with this crap, unfortunatley.
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| As I said when Sharp was sacked, I'd much rather have gotten rid of Agar and brought in a decent attacking coach. Sharp was great for the defence and discipline. It was always in attack that we struggled and that was and is Agar's main focus.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"As I said when Sharp was sacked, I'd much rather have gotten rid of Agar and brought in a decent attacking coach. Sharp was great for the defence and discipline. It was always in attack that we struggled and that was and is Agar's main focus.'"
Scary, isn't it?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Scary, isn't it?'"
Very. It's been five years now and still hasn't been addressed.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Very. It's been five years now and still hasn't been addressed.'"
It's been 10 since Casper retired and we still haven't brought a scrum half in, we don't rush these things if there's a cheap quick fix to try first.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"It's been 10 since Casper retired and we still haven't brought a scrum half in, we don't rush these things if there's a cheap quick fix to try first.'"
I could accept that when we had Smith, Horne and Cooke. Even when it was just Horne and Cooke it wasn't too bad, with them both providing everything we needed really, even if we were a little limited and predictable. We should have been looking to bring someone in to fill Smith's void at that time though (and Brough was never going to be that player), but since Cooke's departure it has just been a series of quick fixes, of which Head was the only one to properly fix things for a sustained period of time.
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