Set of phoney (spelling) fookers weren't you!

getting behind the team when we was 20+ points ahead.



Don't worry you'll all be back to your normal selves next week won't you.



All joking aside, I think the performance was better and some of our players played really well. But a good team would of put 50 past them tonight and not conceeded 18 points.

Its a good job you are Unknown, and you are far from a Superstar as you clearly talk utter tosh!

Win is a win, and regardless of how it comes about, getting the 1st of the season was more important than the finer detail!

No doubt you are the kind of idiotic fan who wants it all. And want it when you click your fingers. Moron.

And here we have the other end of the spectrum of idiocy. Someone says we played well but a good team would have done better... Northernstar responds 'you're the kind of fan who wants it all'.

As a certain right-wing columnist is fond of saying, 'you couldn't make it up'

Thats the worst away performance at the KC in a long time.

No disrespect to Sammut, but given we'd have had to pay a big fee, Obst is arguably looking like better business.

@ garry

maybe 'Unknown' should have some perspective. Are Hull a good team 'yet? - NO
Had they won yet? - NO

So in terms of progression, what should come first, getting which monkey off the collective back first?

Win?
Performance?

I'm not sure how any of that means that 'Unknown' is an 'idiotic fan who wants it all'. His assessment of our performance seemed pretty fair to me.

And if he had some proper perspective, rather than some pie in the sky over inflated opinion of FC tonight, he and everyone else would be satusfied with allowing the oppo to score 18 as long as we scored 19 or more!

Sometimes you just need to cross the line 1st! Then starting shifting you the goals.

Depends how much you think you should read in to beating the Crusaders I guess.

Exactly - the word we should be focusing on is 'BEATING', especially as we hadnt beaten anyone so far!

The points difference is unimportant, especially when its just about achieving that 1st win to provide some confidence.

But the point is that it was far more important to get the win, the opposition being Crusaders made this objective easier, but the result was far more important.

It's a point of view, not one that I particularly agree with. We've started this season with three tough tests and failed each one, tonight was as close to a 'gimme' as you get in SL these days. If we'd managed to nil them or keep them to 6 then it might have really meant something but predictably we failed to do that, you can talk about confidence etc but IMO nothing that has happened tonight changes the fact that we are going to get beat by Wigan next week, and it doesn't change that we will probably beat Wakey the week after. We are what we are under Agar, winning tonight just means we aren't on a losing streak anymore, it doesn't mean we are going anywhere.

A win is a win .you can only beat what is in front of you
and Hull did that

Of course, that's always the case no matter who you are playing and it's always better than losing.

It doesn't change that the significance you can dirive from a win can vary massively.

So youve already decided that FC will be beaten by Wigan, and then we'll beat Wakey.

So why is the points difference so important to you?
From what i gather of your reasoning beating Crusaders by 1 or 100 wouldnt affect anything in the games to come?

So why are you up in arms about it?

Eh? Sorry mate you've lost me

IMO nothing that has happened tonight changes the fact that we are going to get beat by Wigan next week, and it doesn't change that we will probably beat Wakey the week after. We are what we are under Agar, winning tonight just means we aren't on a losing streak anymore, it doesn't mean we are going anywhere.

This is your quote. So would beating Crusaders by 50 mean we'll have more of a chance of beating Wigan?

If we'd managed to nil someone for the first time In Agar's reign or beat someone by more than 30 points for the first time in Agar's reign, then yer I think that landmark might have done more for the team's confidence than the result eventually did tonight

Having lost our first three consecutive proper tests, I don't see how the lads are going to somehow draw loads of confidence to win our biggest test yet just from beating the 3rd weakest team in the comp by a reasonable scoreline.

Wigan struggled tonight against Salford, whom Crusaders beat by 30.

I'm just going to enjoy actually winning a game tonight and I'll get back to the Agar bashing in the days to come.

Long turnaround as well. Pleny of time for that optimism to dissipate.

I'm sure Wigan have taken that into account and are duly concerned about our visit next week