Do we insist on playing a half fit Berrigan when we have a ideal replacement in Houghton sat in the stands? Berrigan is not the reason we are losing but i think Houghton would give us a bit more speed around the play the ballwhich would help us try and pin teams back and give Thorman a little more time with his kicks.............which are fooking awful at the minute

IMO, Recently Berrigan has looked slow, lethargic and uninterested around the PTB even when he was fully fit. I have it on good authority that the club has had talks with him to find out what his problems were as he seemed quiet and uninterested in games, at training and around the club !!

Can you blame him? He was the one who always put his all in, even when injured. Everyone else around him just seems happy to turn up and take the money but do sweet FA for it. The guy must be totally pi**ed off and wondering why the hell he ever came here.

Berrigan absolutely hates it here.

Beleive me!!!!

word on the terraces was that Berro walked out on training as he is disgusted with the way thing are heading.

Steady.

Don't over react to ANOTHER defeat

Avatar thief.



If true, he can feck off and stop pinching cash.

Because he's our best player by a country mile.

I agree with you 100 percent but he is paid an extremely fantastic wage,easily the highest paid player at the club and even if he is sick to death of the other useless tarts he has to play with his wage should demand he leads by example and is professional.

Remember he has to impress or he wont be offered a fourth year which although he may not enjoy a fourth years rugby he will enjoy the money !!!

And simply put if he has had enough and doesnt like it anymore, fook off and we will spend £250,000 a year on someone else !!!!

Sorry

I'll get my coat

Too True !!!

Currently are you sure about that !?!?!?

Yes he is when fully fit,but its clear for all to see that he ain't.If he was fully fit no way can we afford the luxury of playing him off the bench.

Did you not think that when he come on in the first half he changed the game? As he did against Rovers.

Yes he did for 20 mins or so then ran out of energy.Clearly not fit .No doubt a fully fit Berrigan is the best player we have but at the minute its so frustrating watching him crouched down after ever set or scrum cos he is knackered.

Totally agree with you in that he should earn his money, and bloody good money at that but, I think he has tried and tried to be the model professional and he has probably reached the point where he thinks 'what's the F-ing point when everyone else at the club act like a bunch of amateurs'.

And why would he worry about being offered a fourth year extension when it's quite obvious the club are happy to give contracts to players who are bone idle and have no pride in wearing the shirt?

Totally agree. Employers always have a certain responsibility to provide a desirable working environment to hold on to their staff. In some ways I feel a little sorry for players who must have been fed some right whoppers of false promises and end up tied to a few years of pretty much career wilderness.

Obviously the big spondoolies make up for it some, but for the top players (of which Berrigan is certainly one), it's about more than that. It's actually those who seem to be satisfied by the pay-packet and showing little desire who are more of a concern.

Whatever Berrigan thinks is right or wrong with life at FC, he's not the great player we were told he was if his head goes down when the going gets tough. At the very least this well paid athelete should lead by example...as he managed to do for half an hour in the derby.

I'd much rather the people causing one of the best players in the game for the past decade to dislike it here 'feck off'.

Although I though he was again pretty decent tonight, given what he had to work with.

Pretty much how I see it. If it's true that he's frustrated here he wouldn't be the first, and perhaps it's time to address why it's the case rather than just tell him he can go. He might well have a point judging by the state of the team.

Your sentiments are correct but let's not completely ignore the facts.

Four years of making the play offs (04-07) followed by a Challenge Cup Final in 2008 to go with a Grand Final app and a CC win is a hardly a team that's given its players 'career wilderness.'

For all our faults right now there are only three teams who can match what we've achieved in the last few years and even Wigan would have taken our last 5 years over what they've managed

Would you turn your nose up at AUS$500K???

Come on everyone, was Big'ead not totally slagged off for daring to suggest that Berrigan was overrated a few weeks back?

For Shaun Berrigan 2009, read Richard Swain 2006.

Sack the coach and watch him go!