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| We know that Tickle and Briscoe are both off and Galea and Ogre are both retiring,so who else would you get rid of?..heres my list and reasons why
Lynch-Not a shadow of the player he was and age finally catching up with him.
Westerman-not lived up to his price tag,not kicked on at all from signing for us,is lazy in defence and is a glory hit and pass player but usually achieves neither.
Johnson-not big or good enough.
Arundle-not as good as either Crooks or Yeaman and not the type of player to take us forward.
Crookes-As bad as Briscoe under a high board and looks very unfit.
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| Thought Lynch was good today although he hasn't hit the heights of last season. Arundel was hitting some good form before his injury and has a lot of potential. Johnson is a bit of an unsung hero for me, he is a workhorse and his defence is outstanding. Agree on Westerman and I would add Yeaman to the list too.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We know that Tickle and Briscoe are both off and Galea and Ogre are both retiring,so who else would you get rid of?..heres my list and reasons why
Lynch-Not a shadow of the player he was and age finally catching up with him.
Westerman-not lived up to his price tag,not kicked on at all from signing for us,is lazy in defence and is a glory hit and pass player but usually achieves neither.
Johnson-not big or good enough.
Arundle-not as good as either Crooks or Yeaman and not the type of player to take us forward.
Crookes-As bad as Briscoe under a high board and looks very unfit.'"
Would agree with all of those, but I'd add Yeaman in...been a great player for us, but his best days have been and gone and he doesn't offer much value as a squad player as he can only play Centre.
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| I think you have to remember that Arundel is still a young kid, I wouldn't write him off as a failure until he gets a bit more game time
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| Lynch - Age seems to have caught up with him very quickly this year. Hasn't had an outstanding game all season.
Crookes - Hasn't had much time to shine, but I don't think any team can afford to carry small wingers nowadays just as bad as Briscoe in the air.
Yeaman - He's had his day at Hull FC and has been a great player for us, but he's 28 (I think) and he still can't pass. About time we signed a centre who can put his winger away.
Westerman - I'm 50/50 on him he shows glimpse of talent but not enough of it. I don't get the 'hasn't lived upto his price tag' it's not his fault our old board paid a crazy amount for him.
Players like Arundel, Johnson and Jay Pitts are good squad players and do a job when they come in to the 17. I wouldn't get rid of any of these but they wouldn't be first choice.
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| Singling Yeaman out for what is essentially poor coaching is just wrong.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Singling Yeaman out for what is essentially poor coaching is just wrong.'"
You blaming Gentle for that as well?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Singling Yeaman out for what is essentially poor coaching is just wrong.'"
Yeaman has had the same strengths and weaknesses under a succession of coaches. I haven't seen anyone single him out, either.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Singling Yeaman out for what is essentially poor coaching is just wrong.'"
Was it poor coaching when Yeamo decided to not look inside to see if there was any support against Leeds? He can't pass and even when he does he looks so uncomfortable in doing so, it's pretty embarrassing.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We know that Tickle and Briscoe are both off and Galea and Ogre are both retiring,so who else would you get rid of?..heres my list and reasons why
Lynch-Not a shadow of the player he was and age finally catching up with him.
Westerman-not lived up to his price tag,not kicked on at all from signing for us,is lazy in defence and is a glory hit and pass player but usually achieves neither.
Johnson-not big or good enough.
Arundle-not as good as either Crooks or Yeaman and not the type of player to take us forward.
Crookes-As bad as Briscoe under a high board and looks very unfit.'"
Lynch had a better game today I thought. What Johnson lacks in size he makes up for in enthusiasm, and is a great tackler.
Get rid of Arundel - so what about when Yeaman/Crooks get injured? He's had some poor and some decent matches for us, but without any consistent game time I would be very surprised if he is as good as the consistent playing players. Same goes for Crookes.
And why do we care about what the club paid for Westerman? Like I've said a million times before, it's not his fault he was bought for a massive price tag. He was in great form in the first half of the season, his form seems to have dropped like most of the pack.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Was it poor coaching when Yeamo decided to not look inside to see if there was any support against Leeds? He can't pass and even when he does he looks so uncomfortable in doing so, it's pretty embarrassing.'"
I'm more concerned by Houghton's inability to pass than Yeaman's. However this fact seems to get massively overlooked.
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| its ok saying get rid, but who do we get in??
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| Ogre retiring but would love to see him stay another year
Galea retiring
Tickle and Brisoce going
Not leaving but IMO not good enough or time to go
Crookes - Don't think is good enough
Westerman - Still don't see what he brings to the team and for me doesn't do the graft needed
Yeaman - Being poor this season and think we have had the best out of him
Jury still out on Johnson for me aswell
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| Still think arundel given time can be a good centre for us, johnson is a workhorse, crookes looked good early season and cant be written of after 2 poor displays, but its clear we can do with a big rough house forward for next year,
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Ogre retiring but would love to see him stay another year
Galea retiring
Tickle and Brisoce going
Not leaving but IMO not good enough or time to go
Crookes - Don't think is good enough
Westerman - Still don't see what he brings to the team and for me doesn't do the graft needed
Yeaman - Being poor this season and think we have had the best out of him
Jury still out on Johnson for me aswell'"
Three things for me, why sign Galea and Crookes, not try to sign Foster ?
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| throw McDonald into the mix of crap players as well
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"throw McDonald into the mix of crap players as well'"
Who?
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"throw McDonald into the mix of crap players as well'"
some players would have and have been dropped making mistakes like he has
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"throw McDonald into the mix of crap players as well'"
Wayne?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Wayne?'"
Now he was $hite....wonder how Handbrake is now.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Three things for me, why sign Galea and Crookes, not try to sign Foster ?'"
Apart from Fosters goal kicking. He's nothing more than average.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Apart from Fosters goal kicking. He's nothing more than average.'"
Tbf...sooner have kept him than sign Crookes.......his perfomances for us last yr was spot on......more than average.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Singling Yeaman out for what is essentially poor coaching is just wrong.'"
FFS.
You persistently moan and now your here defending the indefensible. Yeaman is slow, jumps the li e to often, has never protected his winger, is selfish (without the ability to back it up in over 7 years) and cannot pass.
Yeaman is one of the reasons we lag behind the top teams. He once courted attention of Leeds, but they never signed him. He is part of the long term averageness, yet you choose to blame the coach?
Well, try watching the game first hand and then your opinion might have something to it, other wise, stop taking up bandwidth.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Apart from Fosters goal kicking. He's nothing more than average.'"
Sorry ,I disagree ,but we are all entitled to an opinion.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Tbf...sooner have kept him than sign Crookes.......his perfomances for us last yr was spot on......more than average.'"
Agree.
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