Discipline is massive for me tonight along with ball retention. If we can keep the penalties and restarts down and show the same effort and desire in defence as last week, then while I don't think we will ultimately win, I can see us keeping things competitive. And then if we can get into the final 10 minutes still in the game you never know what can happen at that point. Give away too much ball or repeatedly invite Wigan into our territory through penalties and restarts then I think they will have enough fire power to rattle up a fair few points. We know defensively they will be their usual tough selves. Not letting a try in for 8 hours (or whatever they're at now) is quite a remarkable stat. Just looking to see us continue on from last week and hopefully the disruption in the team from injuries doesn't cause us too many problems. Hopefully Ashworth makes it.

[quote="pmarrow":khttzuv1]Overall I wasnt that impressed tonight, whether the personal we lost impacted the drop in intensity ill never know. However I wasnt expecting much from the game so we move on. I really thought we would have lost our first two games so to have won 1 out the 2 is something. Move on dont dwell, ive still seen enough to think we will be better then last year. Far from being a boo boy yet, long journey ahead which we all know.[/quote:khttzuv1] Several factors I felt contributed to a loss: injuries, missed go forward in Ashworth, then Sao, so injuries are an issue including Hardaker. Wigan were just really good - strong, fast agile, well drilled, inventive, thinking on their feet, etc, etc. I did feel that we have potential in that we have quicker distribution a decent spine, some young talent, some valuable experienced players and a close up look at where we need to beafter 80 mins against a top outfit. I do see now that perhaps apart from his defence Fash is lacking, not sure about Gardiner. Thought Lane was ok. We missed Cartwright big time. Need another prop and back rower but that’s not a new idea I wasn’t happy about the tackle on Ligi. Didn’t Asiata get in trouble for similar tackles a season or two before? This is a developmental team, we all know it. Last nights result is not the end of the world. Bye the way I think our discipline was better too. S So let’s stay positive and aim for lower mid table. Don’t see anyone but Wigan winning the GF

[quote="WIZEB":kyzgg1qo]Don't see the problem with short drop-out. What do we do, weere 18 points down and need the ball. In truth it was a bang on the money kick from Rapana, manage to knock it back but aren't alert enough to regain it second-ball. What's the alternativ, punt it downfield with the likelihood of them scoring with a full set anyway? Think we'll be big underdogs away at Giants but these are the games we need to compete in otherwise it's gonna be 2024 deja-vu.[/quote:kyzgg1qo] Agree it was a gamble worth taking. Should have done some line out lifting

Pretty much agree with what's already been said. There's definitely some promising signs with our attack. Sezer looks quality and Salabio looks like he's a good signing. Runs and hits hard. Makes you realise just what big losses Cartwright and Hardaker are on that right edge. I know it's easier said than done but we desperately need to try and bring in a couple of forwards ASAP

Lacked energy and spark from the off last night and only had a glimpse of it early in the second half before the ridiculous decision to go for a short drop out. Line speed was everything. We were static for most of the game and Wigan (with the usual aid of the dip in the middle) were blistering. Sezer looked fantastic, even behind our beaten pack (which has to be one of the weakest in the league) and the two wingers continue to impress. Despite the contrast in quality and the missing players I expected a lot hungrier performance last night. It was almost like last week's result created to much pressure for them to handle. Flat and ultimately disappointing. I really hoped these sort of performances were behind us. As others have eluded to, we probably need at least two or three new players if we are to have a better season this year (of Sezer's quality too). Just don't know where they're coming from. The quality and depth just isn't there and despite the rhetoric, pure hard work doesn't always cut it. It's early in the season and I'd have been happy with one from two when the fixtures were announced, so despite my current mood, it's time to suck it up and move on.

[quote="TnT":2ialscwu]Several factors I felt contributed to a loss: injuries, missed go forward in Ashworth, then Sao, so injuries are an issue including Hardaker. Wigan were just really good - strong, fast agile, well drilled, inventive, thinking on their feet, etc, etc. I did feel that we have potential in that we have quicker distribution a decent spine, some young talent, some valuable experienced players and a close up look at where we need to beafter 80 mins against a top outfit. I do see now that perhaps apart from his defence Fash is lacking, not sure about Gardiner. Thought Lane was ok. We missed Cartwright big time. Need another prop and back rower but that’s not a new idea I wasn’t happy about the tackle on Ligi. Didn’t Asiata get in trouble for similar tackles a season or two before? This is a developmental team, we all know it. Last nights result is not the end of the world. Bye the way I think our discipline was better too. S So let’s stay positive and aim for lower mid table. Don’t see anyone but Wigan winning the GF[/quote:2ialscwu] I didn't see anything in the tackle on Sao, it looked like he was injured when stepping before any tackle was affected and Dupree (I think it was) to his credit tried to alert the officials to get Sao some help.