Cas fan here. You deserved to win. If we had kicked the last conversion it would have been robbery. We were far and away the best team in the last 10 MINUTESthe other seventy you were the better team and thus deserved the win. I actually, believe it or not, thought the referee had a good game. Mr Child has become an easy target for all teams, but thought he got the vast majority of the decisions right last night. Watching it on TV I scrutinised all the calls. The penalty count was heavily against us initially, but viewing them, they were all, apart from one were justified, and that could only be detected after close scrutiny by the TV cameras. Some of our fans may call the ref, but what they need to question is why some of our players blatantly reefed the ball out, right in front of him on the 5th and last tackles, which showed up clearly on TV. If we play the percentages, we should know we have at least a 75% chance of getting the ball back on the last tackles. Giving ourselves another set to defend unnecessarily is just plain stupid.

At first I thought he was taking us back more than you, but again after close inspection this was not the case. As soon as we played the ball, your lot were moving straight up and closing us down, We either did not move up or did not start doing so until the first or second receiver had it, allowing you to run at us. That contrast in defensive line speeds, summed up the first 70 minutes you were much more on the ball than us.

It would be easy to criticise our own team, but their is an old adage, which is you are only allowed to play as well as the opposition allows, and you did not allow us. You have been going through a bad time, so deserve credit when it's due. Unfortunately I think you just ran out of bodies at the end.

In theory. But when was the last time you watched two evenly-matched poor sides play and came away thinking "Wow! What a game!"? More often you get an error-ridden borefest.

We have not seen a high quality derby for years, high on excitement yes, quality no

2010 at the KC is the best most recent one I remember, some good rugby, a brawl, and that try saver from Tommy Briscoe. Same fixture in 2011 wasn't bad either, one of Long's few decent games.

Surely if we only get 16,000 then that means a lot of people aren't accepting rubbish?

Had a similar thought.