not a case of believing pal, just plain facts you cant even see that hull have no quality halfback leadership on the pitch hense the 5 drives all the time and the scrappy games. when longy actually plays hull look a far better side just his leader ship alone and as for fitz and ogre not playing makes a massive difference. you imagine lulu and tomkins as hull partnership, do you still think we would be as poor?

Absolutley rubbish.

that proves my point

The only point it proves is where Hull FC are concerned, we could have lost every game so far and you'd be still saying Agar is a great coach and respected by the players

which is certainly not what i would be doing!! but i guess it backs your argument

another poster not bowing down to your superior knowledge ? dreary me