And.................... We critisise our board, but we don;t really know what's gone on. We know AGAR is contracted for next season, and therefore I assume if they sack him, we'll have to pay him compensation.

So, put yourself in Rule's position, as a CE, I'm sure he has contingency plans for (a) we have to get rid of AGAR quickly, (b) we have to get rid during or at the end of next year (c) Agar has a great season and we need to sign him up etc........

If we were a fly on the wall, and Rule was hard on Agar, saying the pressure was on, and we could not tolerate these results, and AGAR explains that some of these player's are not training right, not trying, moaning when Thackery is dropped for Moa (Tickle) and not trying. If due to injuries he can't 'cut them out' and he lacks the Leadership Skills to turn them around (which we all worry about), maybe he's given Rule an ultimatum. Let me build the right squad, judge me by 5-10 games next season, and if we haven;t met the following criteria, I'll resign, with no Compensation. Then from a CEO perspective, he's protected the club from a liability of compo. Git a committed coach who's incentivised, and the only issue outstanding is belief. Any maybe James still believes that there is a chance Agar is right, or it gives him longer to find the right solution, and a side bet that Agar will come good, either way, no Compo.

If that was me............................. I’ll be bold and make sure the criteria to judge Agar was challenging, definable and clear, then do what’s happened. Criteria would be, win 7 from first 10, compete in every game, both halves, etc etc etc......... But if YOU were Rule, and this was the choice (and the Compo was YOUR Money), and there’s not a long list of world class coaches begging to come here, what would YOU do.

It's all to little to late.

The sooner we have a new board with fresh ideas and drive and a new coach the better.

FWIW Even though Thack has been shown the door, he's always out with the guys getting p1ssed on a Friday. Seen it for weeks in the Weir.

Now although that is bad, I used to frequent a bar in Saint Helens (like the Weir) where I the majority of the Saints squad would be getting p1ssed and fighting. However, they were always winning, so it was never an issue!

exactly how i see it, his lack of game plan/set moves and no pride or passion, hs to be down to our second class coachig set up, 1st class facilities frek all else!!!

Agreed - except that professional rugby players on the kind of money some of these guys are on should not need the coach or anyone else to instil in them pride and determination; it should be there already.

If you also added :

Improved the basic skill level.
(Faster play the ball, faster passing,better defensive line speed- as implemented by Nathan Brown at the Giants)

Then - Id say 'Bang on the money'