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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I repeat ifs and buts dont count...we would be justified in saying exactly the same with regards to Sinfield.'"
Sh!t happens and you can only play with players avaliable can't change that. We had at least 9 out but we are not using that as an excuse.
The lads that played did really well and can be happy with how the did.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I repeat ifs and buts dont count...we would be justifie in saying exactly the same with regards to Sinfield.'"
I agree that the better side one last night, but had we not lost our best tackler in the warm up (considering also he is a 'pivotal' position too) really left us with a mountain to climb. I agree that you we struggled to cause you too many problems, and your defense always appeared on top of our attack, but the disorganisation that came with this. the majority of systems and patterns would have involved him at the very least, if not been built round him - so it really put us in it.
I am not saying without that we would have won, but it might have been a different story. Can't really (fairly) compare it to Sinfield not playing as you had, presumably, most of the week to prepare without him - whilst we did not have that relative luxury.
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| The game was killed in 20 mins when that idiot Ganson decided to give 17 penalties! I dont want to watch rugby union i want to watch league! Some were justified others were utter tosh! Our defence and fitness levels look superb. Drew tried everything. I thought Blaymire was superb and he is playing with real confidence! We tried extremely hard and with a couple of players back we would have won. keep up the great effort lads you cannot be faulted! 2 of there trys were from out mistakes, Leeds were very lucky!
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"Positives:
- Drew - excellent game.
- Grix - tireless display.
- Aktins, looked very strong and made some good runs.
- Good team spirit.
- Good line defence, looked organised when defending.
- Excellent work rate and fitness looked good.
Negatives:
- Real lack of any go forward, we urgently need TWO big front rowers ASAP.
- Jay Pitts looked completely out of his depth and seemed to have trouble bending his back.
- Bibey, sorry went hiding when we needed some go forward - useless lump IMHO, sorry but he's got the frame of a giant and the heart of a shrew. Simply not SL standard. Putting far too much pressure on Wilkes and Stosic.
- Poor ball retention, needs improving.
- Discipline, needs to improve.
- Silly penalties - still giving away silly needless pens and piggy backing teams out of their own half far too easily - STILL.
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We can take a lot of positives from last nights game, but IMHO Leeds were there for the taking. They were very average IMHO last night and although they defended well I don't feel we really went at them. We won't have a better chance of beating Leeds at Headingly as we had last night.
Soft tackling let in big Ali, a silly mistake allowed them to score their second and back to back pens on our own line gifted them their 3rd when in all fairness we were on the back foot.
We lacked go forward and just didn't seem to have anyone other than Drew or Atkins who could break the Leeds line.
I don't think we'd have scored if we were still playing now I'm afriad to say and we were asking far too much from Drew to work behind a back offering no go forward whatsoever.
Disappointing in many ways, but lots of positives to take from it.'"
Truly staggered by that comment!
If anyone is there for the taking at the moment, it is us, and the fact that we were competitive against the current champions, and managed to complete only our second SL win at Wigan, belies our current problems.
For anyone to suggest that we 'should' have won at Headingley in these circumstances shows an element of arrogance that is not generally associated with Wakey fans.
We went, we tried, we failed - but we held our pride and will take great heart from the game. I for one have no issues with any player in a Wakey shirt last night!
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| I thought our effort was superb last night and with a couple of players back we may have won that last night. I didnt think Leeds looked great at all whether it was us the ref that made them that way is up for debate. Im confident of 2 points next sunday and hopefully some players back
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| Quote ="TRB"Truly staggered by that comment!
If anyone is there for the taking at the moment, it is us, and the fact that we were competitive against the current champions, and managed to complete only our second SL win at Wigan, belies our current problems.
For anyone to suggest that we 'should' have won at Headingley in these circumstances shows an element of arrogance that is not generally associated with Wakey fans.
We went, we tried, we failed - but we held our pride and will take great heart from the game. I for one have no issues with any player in a Wakey shirt last night!
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Cant agree [i" fully"[/i with that TRB,
Yes the fact that we were competitive v leeds belies our current problems given last years record, however two of leeds try's came from mistakes (one try directly), and we had plently of pressure on there line with no affect.
What these people and I are trying to say is that we will not have a better chance of beating leeds and perhaps with obst a little luck or abit smarter rugby leeds were definetly there for the taking last night during the game, we could have won.
Neither do I have any issues way the wakey players played last night, however with a little luck or perhaps obst we had a big chance, and i know alot of fans stood near me felt the same
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Cant agree [i"fully"[/i with that TRB,
Yes the fact that we were competitive v leeds belies our current problems given last years record, however two of leeds try's came from mistakes (one try directly), and we had plently of pressure on there line with no affect.
What these people and I are trying to say is that we will not have a better chance of beating leeds and perhaps with obst a little luck or abit smarter rugby leeds were definetly there for the taking last night during the game, we could have won.
Neither do I have any issues way the wakey players played last night, however with a little luck or perhaps obst we had a big chance, and i know alot of fans stood near me felt the same'"
We will have a better chance when some players are back. Daft thing to say that.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I repeat ifs and buts dont count...we would be justified in saying exactly the same with regards to Sinfield.'"
Your a bit of a toss pot you
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Cant agree [i"fully"[/i with that TRB,
Yes the fact that we were competitive v leeds belies our current problems given last years record, however two of leeds try's came from mistakes (one try directly), and we had plently of pressure on there line with no affect.
What these people and I are trying to say is that we will not have a better chance of beating leeds and perhaps with obst a little luck or abit smarter rugby leeds were definetly there for the taking last night during the game, we could have won.
Neither do I have any issues way the wakey players played last night, however with a little luck or perhaps obst we had a big chance, and i know alot of fans stood near me felt the same'"
Fair enough, but, as the Loiners have stated, we can only run with what we have and, TBF, 5-days after such a big effort as Wigan was also going to add to the difficulties.
FWIW I do not blame Blaymire at all for the second try. It was one heck of a kick, but I do think the players around were a little too slow reacting.
As ever though, with that bounce and most of the rest, we got little luck - Jammie Leeds!
We'll do 'em this year at BV though - I'll put a fiver on that (with a Wakey fan only) now!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"I stand by statement, Sam Obst doesnt get injured in the warm up for the game and we would have won. There wasnt much between the teams and sam would have made the difference..'"
and if ali didnt get injured he might have got a hat trick?????? ififififififififififif
your argument doesnt get out of the hanger let alone off the ground
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I repeat ifs and buts dont count...we would be justified in saying exactly the same with regards to Sinfield.'"
rubbish sinfield is the most over rated player in the league except sean o loughlin he stands out about as much as a scone in bettys tea room
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| Quote ="desmond decker"rubbish sinfield is the most over rated player in the league except sean o loughlin he stands out about as much as a scone in bettys tea room'"
I guarantee that if Sinfield was wearing a Wakefield shirt you would not make a comment like that.
And for what its worth, a scone in Betty's always stand out to me. Got to have a scone in Betty's...
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| Quote ="desmond decker"rubbish sinfield is the most over rated player in the league except sean o loughlin he stands out about as much as a scone in bettys tea room'"
interesting opinion but thats all it is
and its based on watching the player regularly is it ????? more than say 2 a season.
Remind me how many SL winners rings and WCC winners medals has he acquired... say compared to O`Loughlin or even your own worst player even
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| OHH touchy arent we
im entitled to my opinion like anyone else and you wont change my view i just dont see what the big who-ha about is to be honest average player is all he is nothing special at all
and yeah i only see him two games a season when we play you i havent got tv in my cave and cant get to matches because my flintstone truck wont go on these square wheels ive made im going to have to make some modications
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| Seeing as we haven't had a recognised loose forward for a while, Sinfield would walk into our team. O'Loughlin too for that matter.
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| well for wots it's worth i stick my two penneth worth in lol, i come away from headingley feeling very proud of our team last night, we gave our all and for me thats all you can ask. drew was good last nite tried his heart out, atkins was a positive just to come thru the game in one piece was good but he played really well to boot, matty blaymire was good except one bit wen he gotstood up really easy by danny allon tho martin stopped him scoring wen he threw it away!!! lol most of the pack was good too stood up to be counted and grafted, only one forward disappoints me i wont name him but for his size and stature he just goes hiding and is a big disappointment to me, but apart rom that i go into next week against salford full of hope, and as alot said that night if noel had said 2 points from your first 2 games deal or no deal i would have said deal
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| Did any of your fans actully go to the match, attendance was not much bigger that Celtic (14826), to (15643) - Last year was 17769.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Did any of your fans actully go to the match, attendance was not much bigger that Celtic (14826), to (15643) - Last year was 17769.'"
Was packed behind sticks. Not saying they were all Wakey fans but it was a decent turn out!
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| Quote ="adam9641"Was packed behind sticks. Not saying they were all Wakey fans but it was a decent turn out!'"
Probably in this current climate, but 2K down on last year, even 1.5K down on 2007, and there was two Leeds Wakey games at Headingley
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Probably in this current climate, but 2K down on last year, even 1.5K down on 2007, and there was two Leeds Wakey games at Headingley'"
So instead of it being the Wakey fans not turning up, how about Leeds fans?
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| Quote ="adam9641"So instead of it being the Wakey fans not turning up, how about Leeds fans?'"
Fair point, would you really like to stand on a METAL FLOOR, for all the match a second week running, in this weather. - My feet were ready to fall off again
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Probably in this current climate, but 2K down on last year, even 1.5K down on 2007, and there was two Leeds Wakey games at Headingley'"
do you think it might be down to the credit crunch
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| Quote ="snowie"do you think it might be down to the credit crunch
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That or £20 for a ticket now plus £1.50 booking fee from Headingley
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Fair point, would you really like to stand on a METAL FLOOR, for all the match a second week running, in this weather. - My feet were ready to fall off again
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Yeah it was freezing!
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| TOO RIGHT it was
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