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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Probably because some Wakefield fans are obsessed about Castleford when they should be worrying about their own club instead but to some that's too much to ask.'"
That has worked both ways though fella with supporters of both sides obsessing about the other one and finding fault, gloating etc. What will be, will be. It will all come out in the wash over time. 1st division RL (wont call it super league cos it aint so super) in this country will be worse off without either cas or trin.
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| Quote ="vastman"All clubs are in the brown stuff, just look at the economy.
It's not personal but at what point could any sane person believe that the WR site is worth 50 million or that any Supermarket would want it at a 10th of that price. It's madness. God knows who owns BV but it's valued at a few million quid and it's a far better site than WR.
Cas is a small place and no offence but is hardly a prime area. It could possibly support another Supermarket but not at that price or even close.
I work for Morrisons and I can tell you know for them to bother with that site they would expect it at a knock down rate and some serious sweeteners to take it on. Supermarkets are absolutely without mercy, they are utterly predatory and simply will not pay the going rate for anything. There is no pressing reason why any of them would push the boat out for a store in Castleford - sorry.
Mr Wright is throwing the dice one more time to stall, you will be disappointed.'" In your opinion.
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| Quote ="007"In your opinion.'"
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"If Plan B isn't finalised, what do you expect them to say? Muddy the waters by saying we might do something but might not. This is why Oakwell was never officially announced by anyone, but hinted at (and that was stupid) by board members.
The fact is we've gone from a Chairman answerable to shareholders giving only vague information to a Chairman who owns the club lock, stock and barrell, and still gives more information out to the supporters than he needs to. Never happy.'"
Why hint at anything if plan B isnt nearly finalised? Also Andrew Glover said at the audience night that plan B was Oakwell at that time if newmarket wasnt looking good..
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"[uWhy have we got 7 pages of a thread about wakefields plan b taken over by Cas plans[/u???? fed up of reading about cas!!!
on topic why dont the club tell us what plan B is? what is gained by just giving a vague idea of what it is? it seems quite certain what is going to happen so why not tell us? Plan A is newmarket and there is a timetable in place what is going to happen to the government inquiry so at what point do you make a decision thats not going to happen? next year?
Surely with the franchise application going in we need a definative plan, asap?'"
Because sadly a few narrow minded fans from both sides and chasing "the last word" and won't back down, both boards are the same.
I could start removing posts and posters but they would all whinge about free speech and all that guff, won't bother me too much If you wish to make a complaint then i'll have no choice but to act on it
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| Go for it Al - Cas mods don't think twice about deleting posts pointing out rascist attitudes on their board. They do the same thing if you win the argument as well. Sauce for the goose and all that.
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| THERES NO PARKING AT BELLE VUE !!! NO PUBS APART FROM UNDER THE BRIDGE LEADING UPTO THE GROUND. ITS HAD ITS DAY !!! BUT ITS A HOME UNTIL NM GETS BUILT HOPEFULLY..
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"THERES NO PARKING AT BELLE VUE !!! NO PUBS APART FROM UNDER THE BRIDGE LEADING UPTO THE GROUND. ITS HAD ITS DAY !!! BUT ITS A HOME UNTIL NM GETS BUILT HOPEFULLY..'"
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"THERES NO PARKING AT BELLE VUE !!! NO PUBS APART FROM UNDER THE BRIDGE LEADING UPTO THE GROUND. ITS HAD ITS DAY !!! BUT ITS A HOME UNTIL NM GETS BUILT HOPEFULLY..'"
YOUR WORSE THAN WHEN DEAN WIDDERS CRAVES A KFC!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Why hint at anything if plan B isnt nearly finalised? Also Andrew Glover said at the audience night that plan B was Oakwell at that time if newmarket wasnt looking good..'"
It's a catch 22, if you say something before it's finalized it may come back and bite you if things don't work out, if you say nothing, fans are moaning, about the lack of information coming from the club, your damned if you do, damned if you don't imo
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"It's a catch 22, if you say something before it's finalized it may come back and bite you if things don't work out, if you say nothing, fans are moaning, about the lack of information coming from the club, your damned if you do, damned if you don't imo'"
Yep you just can't win, we just have to trust the new set up and hope for the best, the last thing we need is another story teller in this City, ones enough me thinks.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"When people post on forums they usually are!
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So why try to market it as fact?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"THERES NO PARKING AT BELLE VUE !!! NO PUBS APART FROM UNDER THE BRIDGE LEADING UPTO THE GROUND. ITS HAD ITS DAY !!! BUT ITS A HOME UNTIL NM GETS BUILT HOPEFULLY..'"
So what would you rather? We go to Fev or Cas unnecessarily?
Parking - we don't have many fans so there is sufficient parking. If there are more fans, then some people will need to 'heaven forbid' walk a short while to the ground from where they park. There are plenty of places nearby for our size of crowds.
Pubs - there are drinking facilities in the ground, which raises funds for the club. As for other places, there isn't a lot of places, but we are not a million miles from any pub really.
BV has had it's day - That's why the idea is to revamp it and renovate it to a decent standard until a new ground appears.
What are you expecting - a national stadium to be built for our 80,000 fans in Wakefield?? Get real, get a grip.
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| I think we've just got to trust AG here. I'd rather he kept quiet until he's got his plans sorted. He seems to be trying to do the right thing right across the whole spectrum of club activities, even seems to be listening to what the fans say.
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| Quote ="RichieWarlord"So what would you rather? We go to Fev or Cas unnecessarily?
Parking - we don't have many fans so there is sufficient parking. If there are more fans, then some people will need to 'heaven forbid' walk a short while to the ground from where they park. There are plenty of places nearby for our size of crowds.
Pubs - there are drinking facilities in the ground, which raises funds for the club. As for other places, there isn't a lot of places, but we are not a million miles from any pub really.
BV has had it's day - That's why the idea is to revamp it and renovate it to a decent standard until a new ground appears.
What are you expecting - a national stadium to be built for our 80,000 fans in Wakefield?? Get real, get a grip.'"
This is the worst post I have ever seen. You've chose to have a go at him for no reason what so ever, in fact most of your points agree with what he's just said. I think you may be the one who needs to get a grip.
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| Quote ="007"So why try to market it as fact?'"
No one is.
Oh dear, you seem upset Mr Bond? Whats wrong?
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"
on topic why dont the club tell us what plan B is?'"
They have told us what plan B is I haven't even read the Express/Website but just from reading this thread I know what plan B is. I find it amazing that you don't.
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what is gained by just giving a vague idea of what it is? it seems quite certain what is going to happen so why not tell us??'"
What more details do you want? Seems like some folk expect Mr Glover to give them a personal meeting to explain the blue prints. What is certain to happen? If plan A comes off then there is no point going to far down the plan B route.
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Plan A is newmarket and there is a timetable in place what is going to happen to the government inquiry so at what point do you make a decision thats not going to happen? next year?
Surely with the franchise application going in we need a definative plan, asap?'"
I think this shows that the club are working hard to ensure that when decision time comes they are in the best place possible to make the decision that will best serve the future of the club. From what has been put out by the club I am happy that they are doing their best to ensure the long term future of the club. I'm not going to get all upset because I don't know every detail of every plan that they make. Maybe we should get on with supporting the club and let them get on with running it.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"This is the worst post I have ever seen. '"
That's a very bold claim on here.
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| Quote ="J.T"That's a very bold claim on here.'"
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"This is the worst post I have ever seen. You've chose to have a go at him for no reason what so ever, in fact most of your points agree with what he's just said. I think you may be the one who needs to get a grip.'"
Worst post ever, why thank you so very much. I'm sure you will have upset some other posters on here with that statement more than you have upset me!
His post is the kind of rubbish that away fans tell us about BV, when all in all, it is a functional stadium with sufficient facilities for who we are and the level we are. It is the RFL that are forcing changes amongst grounds and clubs, I don't think that Wakey, Cas, Salford, Saints or other clubs would have been looking at the completely new grounds situation if the RFL hadn't had their thing about new grounds.
The post was painting a picture that Wakey's ground is in some kind of inaccessible wilderness, when we are all aware that it is not.
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| Quote ="RichieWarlord"Worst post ever, why thank you so very much. I'm sure you will have upset some other posters on here with that statement more than you have upset me!
His post is the kind of rubbish that away fans tell us about BV, when all in all, it is a functional stadium with sufficient facilities for who we are and the level we are. It is the RFL that are forcing changes amongst grounds and clubs, I don't think that Wakey, Cas, Salford, Saints or other clubs would have been looking at the completely new grounds situation if the RFL hadn't had their thing about new grounds.
The post was painting a picture that Wakey's ground is in some kind of inaccessible wilderness, when we are all aware that it is not.'"
The biggest problem with Belle Vue is the lack of cover. If they can sort that out then I think you are spot on.
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| Quote ="J.T"From what has been put out by the club I am happy that they are doing their best to ensure the long term future of the club. I'm not going to get all upset because I don't know every detail of every plan that they make. Maybe we should get on with supporting the club and let them get on with running it.'"
I think you are spot on with this, especially when many parts of sorting Plan B may need to remain confidential until firmed up. The fact is there is more trust, for whatever reason, that if it is needed, the new board can deliver it if Plan A is further delayed.
Communication is much better, and average supporters without an in are privy to much more info today than in the past 10 years, and hopefully that is kept up. That is crucial.
Some think they have a divine right to know everything (and hopefully that culture or toadying up for info to the last regime is at an end), but the fact still remains, one entitiy owns this club now, not many small shareholders and a few larger ones. One entity with no obligation to tell us anything!
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| Quote ="RichieWarlord"Worst post ever, why thank you so very much. I'm sure you will have upset some other posters on here with that statement more than you have upset me!
His post is the kind of rubbish that away fans tell us about BV, when all in all, it is a functional stadium with sufficient facilities for who we are and the level we are. It is the RFL that are forcing changes amongst grounds and clubs, I don't think that Wakey, Cas, Salford, Saints or other clubs would have been looking at the completely new grounds situation if the RFL hadn't had their thing about new grounds.
The post was painting a picture that Wakey's ground is in some kind of inaccessible wilderness, when we are all aware that it is not.'"
The major problems with BV are no cover, no parking and the fact its penned in on all sides, which frankly, is something thats is out of the club control.
Cover appears to be getting sorted, which leaves parking. As a temporary measure, I wonder if the old power station site could be leased and used as a stadium car park.
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| I'm sure that at the conclusion of talks, whether successful or not Andrew Glover will explain in further details. We can't know everything, stay patient. Communication from the club has dramatically improved since AG takeover, have faith
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That's the quote I highlighted and I never said it was you, just pointing out that there are fans from Castleford who take great happiness in every bit of bad news Trinity get, so it cuts both ways.
Before you jump on your high horse bud, you might want to go through my post history because I have never made any comment about Cas' stadium plans ever while I've been a member here. So you might want to check your facts before the name calling.'"
And those castleford fans are just as pathetic, i have never said you have made comment about cas and i havent called you any names. Please dont insinuate i have said things i havent.
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