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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm sure it still is, but that's a long plan. Can't just instantly do it.'"
It cannot be MC’s plan because he is going at the end of the season, so he has little time left. If he plans to get an head start in the Championship by having a squad of the standard required this season then yes he has achieved that.
I wonder who we will arrange a dual registration with so that we can assist to give the senior’s clubs players playing time. The recent movements suggests we are already putting the processes in place.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"For us it would be better for the Road to be paved with gold.'"
Gold is far more acceptable to a good youth set up as Hull KR are showing.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It cannot be MC’s plan because he is going at the end of the season, so he has little time left. If he plans to get an head start in the Championship by having a squad of the standard required this season then yes he has achieved that.
I wonder who we will arrange a dual registration with so that we can assist to give the senior’s clubs players playing time. The recent movements suggests we are already putting the processes in place.'"
Well I'm not sure he knew he was going when he said that, but I don't understand why he's now getting a hard time about this. Isn't it good to try for this.
We did better than most on academy, we just seem to be stuffed by those not needing to pay for academies and invest in short term squad.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well I'm not sure he knew he was going when he said that, but I don't understand why he's now getting a hard time about this. Isn't it good to try for this.
We did better than most on academy, we just seem to be stuffed by those not needing to pay for academies and invest in short term squad.'"
It's not so much as a hard time, but its just we don't seem to be going in the path that he said only just over 12 months ago, and this is him saying it, no vicious rumours here. So many young players we have lost since this.
Also, he had high hopes for our then coach too!
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Gold is far more acceptable to a good youth set up as Hull KR are showing.'"
Two home grown pivots in the recent England squad for starters
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| Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter getting a lot of stick on this forum a lot of which he does not deserved Answer my this .Is it not the Coaches job to get a team to pass a ball along the line at speed ,defend well ,get forwards to run in hard when receiving the ball ,and move up as one at speed when defending all of which we do not do. Is this Mr Carter's job as well,Think my self this is down to poor coaching by our, out of there depth, coaches'"
The team are certainly not playing to their abilities that’s plain for all to see , they may not be the best in super league by a long shot ,but they are at a better level than they are showing at present and there lies for me the problem . Is it simply down to confidence or poor structures put in by the coach ,im not sure , but just looking at the team struggling with the basics of the game is worrying .3 defensive howlers cost us dearly at Wigan something you don’t often see in the amateur game let alone with professional players .
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Two home grown pivots in the recent England squad for starters'"
Yeah we’ve always seemed to have a good production line for homegrown players, I just hope the dream comes true and most of our first team consists of players graduating from the academy.
For one reason or another I think we’re some way off that yet and a drop to the championship won’t help.
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| Granted, we do.
The problem we have, not valuing them enough, and being able to retain them, while at the same time, squandering cap and budget space elsewhere, which I feel at times, defeats the whole object of what were trying to achieve
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Granted, we do.
The problem we have, not valuing them enough, and being able to retain them, while at the same time, squandering cap and budget space elsewhere'"
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| East to say. But if we just went with our young players this year they'd have been ripped apart by all those lovely supporters that think they know better.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Two home grown pivots in the recent England squad for starters'"
Correct me if I'm wrong but Rovers have only two players in their whole 1st team squad who have come through their system. Lewis and Fishwick.
They did have Will Tate who was released to Castleford once they got Corey Hall and Connor Barley who is now on a season long loan to York I believe.
If you were including Litten he started off at Hull FC.
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| Quote ="PopTart"East to say. But if we just went with our young players this year they'd have been ripped apart by all those lovely supporters that think they know better.'"
Were you eating again
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| You’ve got to invest in your Academy and do it long term if you want to fill your team with home grown products
We don’t!
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| Th other thing is what youngster would want to spend longer than they have too at a club with no plans for future expansion, no ambition and little or no investment.
You can bring youngsters through all you want but they will not stay at a backward club
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| Problem is that at this stage last year and now again we look nailed on for relegation. We could promise both old and young players the earth but I guess a guaranteed Super League contract on the table, with a deadline to commit to, is impossible to turn down. They don't even need to offer more money.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Problem is that at this stage last year and now again we look nailed on for relegation. We could promise both old and young players the earth but I guess a guaranteed Super League contract on the table, with a deadline to commit to, is impossible to turn down. They don't even need to offer more money.'"
Indeed. We are probably rebuilding the whole team next year no matter which league we are in.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Correct me if I'm wrong but Rovers have only two players in their whole 1st team squad who have come through their system. Lewis and Fishwick.
They did have Will Tate who was released to Castleford once they got Corey Hall and Connor Barley who is now on a season long loan to York I believe.
If you were including Litten he started off at Hull FC.'"
I think Jez Litten was actually part of the City Of Hull academy when the two Hull clubs merged their academies for a short period of time
He, and his cousin that is on Hull FC's books, are actually both East Hull lads
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Correct me if I'm wrong but Rovers have only two players in their whole 1st team squad who have come through their system. Lewis and Fishwick.
They did have Will Tate who was released to Castleford once they got Corey Hall and Connor Barley who is now on a season long loan to York I believe.
If you were including Litten he started off at Hull FC.'"
Hull kr gave 7 of there academy lads first team deals in September 22
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I think Jez Litten was actually part of the City Of Hull academy when the two Hull clubs merged their academies for a short period of time
He, and his cousin that is on Hull FC's books, are actually both East Hull lads'"
Who's this then?
In 2017 he made his Super League début for Hull FC against the Warrington Wolves.
In October 2017 Litten agreed to join Doncaster on loan for the 2018 season.
On 22 April, 2019 Litten scored his first Betfred Super League try in his sides 62–16 loss againstSt Helens.
On 29 July, Litten joined rivals Hull Kingston Rovers from Hull F.C.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Hull kr gave 7 of there academy lads first team deals in September 22'"
Of those 7 named at that time only Barley and Fishwick were named in this years 30 man 1st team squad.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Of those 7 named at that time only Barley and Fishwick were named in this years 30 man 1st team squad.'"
If you look on kr website and there first team sqaud all arw in the squad its just they all dont have squad numbers,promoting 7 in one go is impressive
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| If they don't have squad numbers they are not in the super league squad.
So what have they been promoted to?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"If you look on kr website and there first team sqaud all arw in the squad its just they all dont have squad numbers,promoting 7 in one go is impressive'"
Just smoke and mirrors mate.
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| Quote ="PopTart"If they don't have squad numbers they are not in the super league squad.
So what have they been promoted to?'"
Well they have in hull kr words first team contracts,
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Well they have in hull kr words first team contracts,'"
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