We did and he would have smashed the grub, but he was an absolute loon off the pitch.

Agree 100% that we were bullied off the park and our big men were pretty feeble. However remember this, we moan like chuff when players get booked and call them penalty machines, in fact Pitts is getting some stick for manning up. So those demanding we toughen up then fine but remember the down side before you get on their backs, you can’t have it both ways!

Other teams don’t get away with it as we seem to think, it’s part of their game and they know how to deal with the fallout, we don’t we go to pieces because our forwards don’t defend their own penalties. You can get away with almost any penalties if you’re willing to defend as a unit.

Walker played all of last season for London at fullback and whatever games he started for us this year had been at fullback. And I have yet to see him offer anything more than either Max or Rocky do at that position, other than maybe faster than Max and better under the high ball than Rocky.

The signing of Walker is another example of Chester trusting another club’s academy product than ours. Max has been around the first team for nearly 5 years now and if anything other than the first year where the other fullback was either Craig Hall or BJB, he hasn’t had a fair run at FB.

Take 2017 for example. Salford away in the league, Max came in for Grix, had a stormer then got dropped the following week.

It would seem that the SKY and BBC commentary teams see Mcilorum as some sort of "character" a "bit of a lad" sort of thing and not the inherent nasty player that he is and was all the time that he was at Wigan. They seemed to treat his thuggery as a bit of a joke. No wonder Jay Pitts lost his rag.A typical Wane product, and rightly deserves the "Grub" tag that he's acquired

I don't think there's any difference between McCllorum Wilkins and Buchanan Jones when it comes to snide assaults on players, probably a select mutual appreciation society.

Can't agree, McCilorum has been in a class of his own since Gareth Hock retired.

Don't agree at all, McCllorum is a pure and simple first class grub where as Hock was a pure and simple first class head the ball.

I'd love to see McIlorum at Wakefield, haven't had anyone like him since Moore. Grub? Well maybe he is but its a grubby sport, half the appeal of watching in the first place was the rough stuff.

The thing for me is you dont have to be a grub.
Justin Poore ? Was a no nonsense prop forward who never took a step back and made his presence felt .
He could sort things out and the opposition didnt mess with him.
Always thought you need a bit of an animal in the pack.

Mcllorum is a fantastic player, he would be a fabulous signing for us. He simply would not accept the standards our players and coaching staff have been serving up these last couple of years. Don`t you worry our soft forwards would have to man up or ship out. Plus he would ignore instructions from our coaching staff and manage the game how it should be managed.

Monte Betham could sort them out without the niggle.

Correct we need someone to take it to the opposition and shove it up them, someone who leads from the front

Back in the day mcloren was ten a penny he'd not tough just puts him self about and no one's brave enough to to take him on days of turner wouldn't be sent off carried off

There’s tough and then there’s eye gouging someone on the floor.

Gouging you give em it back he's no superman big lads in our pack but what I've seen soft folk on here don't like em being critisiced sorry but I was brought up with turner and vines didn't take nonsense

5/4/18 - Cas 41-0 Catalans
23/3/18 - Hull 42-16 Catalans
17/3/18 - Catalans 0-26 Warrington
9/3/19 - Catalans 0-46 Salford
8/6/19 - Warrington 34-4 Catalans
22/6/19 - Catalans 10-50 Hull
21/7/19 - Salford 40-14 Catalans
31/8/19 - Catalans 6-24 Hull KR
6/9/19 - Wigan 46-12 Catalans

No, he wouldn’t accept it would he...what happened in those games then to your beloved Mcllorum? Did he forget to be the enforcer?

So easy to heap praise on a player when the WHOLE team is playing well...

Briggs vines and turner what a back 3

Thought Briggs was a Prop ,thought Budgie Firth played second row but will bow down to your greater knowledge

So did I, thought he played blind side prop at wakey.

That's my recollection as well. Oh Happy days.

With Budgie Firth thrown in for good measure, and from a later era Steve Lyons.