The team have lost any bottle they had in defence. They also can't attack. I would be very surprised if Wigan didn't at least score thirty next week.

Sadly yes.

Apart from Huddersfield we’ve not beaten a Super League side since Leeds at home on 22/4. Going on 3 months by the time we play Wigan.

For Leeds (eeeerm I mean Wigan thanks FIL) I'd stick with pretty much the same pack. If Fifita is fit I'd play him but only if fit.
Pauli would not play back row for me. He's either an impact prop or not at all for Wigan.

The slide defence is obviously worrying and the second rows have a big part to play in that. I think Arundal and Batch did ok but I'd be interested to see if there was a communication issue on the slide with them as it isn't a winger thing. Apart from BJB slipping for one try, all the others were caused by defence issues two players inside them.

I have to say, Tupou is not right yet but i think it's a game time thing for him.
Hampshire needs a rest in my opinion. Max if fit plays.
Crowther is excellent in defence but needs to just concentrate on running hard with the ball. I feel like he's always caught in two minds of whether to run it in or give the pass. His game needs to be simplified.

Brough has to play as he's the only one with a long kicking game and at the moment, we need to keep the opposition as far away from our line as we can. Miller puts a lot of effort in but I'm losing faith in him. I wonder whether it is a captain thing.
I was listening to Kirmond recently and he was saying he was really proud to be named captain and it was a player vote that put him there but he said he was actually second choice. The first choice didn't want to be captain. I wonder whether Miller should have taken that call too. (personally I always thought he would be a good captain but no longer sure, though no one else jumps out either)

It's going to be tough but we are improving, just not quickly enough.

Agree with all that, PT....apart from the fact that we don't play Leeds again !!!

This

Atleast we will be able to turn it off if it gets too bad

What joy.


I feel like calling the Lancashire Constabulary on Thursday at around 7.30pm and tell them that there is a murder about to be committed.

After last night I'm pleasedI'm on holiday for the Wigan game.

While I certainly don't like to hear pf players injured it would seem this is the only way we might have a chance on Thursday given our performance over the past weeks and very low morale..... https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... st-helens/

While I certainly don't like to hear pf players injured it would seem this is the only way we might have a chance on Thursday given our performance over the past weeks and very low morale..... https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... st-helens/

God knows where that came from.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of Trinity fans "on holiday" next week.
Even with free travel, Wigan on a Thursday night is an absolute nightmare, not one for the faint hearted !

This is the first season since MC came in that I don't look forward to going to games, it's no longer a pleasure to watch the team.

Think you’re missing out the 2015 season mate, saying that this is one isn’t far off turning out the same way!

I believe we will survive but it will be more down to the other teams not winning enough games rather than what we do on the pitch. A one off bad performance would be considered a blip but what we are producing is now the norm. We appear not to be able to solve the problem, we all know that our defence out wide can be outflanked without too much trouble. This as been the case since the start of the season but it still remains the case and this is the responsibility of the coaching team.

Been a lot longer than since beginning of this season, Scarlet. It was a regular occurence in the days of Cockayne and Fox on the flanks

Look at london fixtures see if your still so confident

No heart, no defence on wings, no idea near opposition try line, no pride, no visibility of a game plan, no way I am wasting another penny this season on away games, especially after the French farce. 80 points conceded in two games. Just like 2015 again. Norfolk in Chance.

See ya then

So we're all thinking the same thing, but when somebody mentions sacking Chester there's an uproar on here. So what's the answer keep playing the same way we have been doing ?

PT you are pompous
You need to resign as a mod.

I'm not sure why one is relevant to the other really.

I would drop Miller (out of form )and Pauli ( luxury we can't afford and a penalty machine ) Assuming all fit I would go with
Jowitt
BJB
Lynne
Tupou
MCB
Brough
Hampshire
England
Randell
Tanginoa
Bachelor
King

Subs
Wood
Hurst
Crowther
Kopjac

Burgess won't play, he picked up a shoulder injury v Saints. So that's three wingers unavailable!
Add to that four props, Clubb, Flower, Navarrette and Bullock, plus O'Loughlin and Greenwood.

Wigans starting pack will probably be Byrne, Powell, Partington, Isa, Farrell and Smithies.

The bench forwards Havard, Wells, and another.

Take it easy on us half that pack need to be in school on Friday

Those kids will probably have to go easy on us I’m afraid.

I live in hope but just can't see where a win is coming from at the moment. Two wins I think will do us to stay up but three more wins would be ideal