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| That is true, and that would be quite a strong partnership.
With Matty Smith going, could this end the speculation of Hampshires future, as there would be a spot in the halves at Wigan available.
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| Moore might not be the biggest, but he was a competent goal kicker, and his long range kicking wasn't too bad either. Watched Halifax vs Fev earlier in the season, Moore tore them apart. Would be decent backup.
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| I like Moore, but for next season Finn would still be first choice.
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| I believe he has a full time career and part time rugby suits him better.
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| Why not give Isaac John another go as his first visit to SL he was young but he is now 27 with more experience playing in the halves and could be a descent match with miller
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| Gareth Moore was ok first time around.
However I feel if we have any ambition we should be aiming higher.
Other SL clubs are and we are trying to compete with these.
Thanks but no thanks.
Not too sure about Isaac John. He really did struggle both on and off the field to settle.
Personally I like the thought of Williams or maybe Luke Kelly
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Gareth Moore was ok first time around.
However I feel if we have any ambition we should be aiming higher.
Other SL clubs are and we are trying to compete with these.
Thanks but no thanks.
Not too sure about Isaac John. He really did struggle both on and off the field to settle.
Personally I like the thought of Williams or maybe Luke Kelly'"
Agree, we've got to be looking at someone better than Moore to compete next year. Like someone else said he wouldn't even out place Finn imo.
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| Personally.
An extra half back shouldnt be just here as cover. They should be here providing competition.
It wasnt that long ago that fans were slating Miller and Finn. Miller especially. Form is only temporary as they say.
If we are looking to replace you would want that player to be SL ready
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| I don't see replacing our halves as a priority. Finn and Miller have been good this year and have only looked below par when playing behind a beaten pack, which to be fair they often have to. When our forwards are on the front foot they look impressive and that's the way Rugby is folks!Our priority is getting some size and punch in the pack, getting players in whose mistake stats and missed tackles are lower as we have too many of the opposite and a decent centre to put with Arundel who I think has had a good year. We need a utility player to replace Hall who we ought to have kept
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| Fair point Charlie but if either Miller or Finn pick up an injury who do you put there
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| finn is not super league standard he should be the back up
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| Overall BOJ04 I think he has gone ok. His main problem is lack of pace for me. There has been several occasions this year where he has broke the line but due to lack of pace as soon as he has realised it he has been closed down. Had this have been someone quicker they would have been through.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we would have been better sigbing him 5-6 years ago as he would have ben quicker then.
Next year he will be a year older and slower and would agree that I would rather have him as back up.
He could actually share the hooking role with Moore but then distribution could be slower.
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| I am sorry but anybody suggesting Gareth Moore needs to give their head a shake. He is a decent championship player but there is no way he is SL standard. If we are wanting to progress then we need to be looking at better than Moore.
I have been happy with the way that Finn and Miller have gone this year but with Finn's advancing years and the fact that I cant see Finn and Miller being as lucky with injuries as they have been this year i think we do need to be looking at another half back option for next year.
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| I'm sorry but I don't get this. If we were to grade this year's Superleague combinations in terms of ability, clicking games organisation etc ( all the things you want from out halves) then Finn and Miller don't get into the top 15 combinations. That's quite a sobering thought and indicates how brilliantly we have done this year with such a handicap. Of greater concern is the fact that other clubs are looking to improve on their already superior position. Our overriding priority in recruitment must be to bring in a new high quality halfback pairing. Miller may make a squad player but I fear for next year without a dramatic improvement in this area.
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| Think Finn has done very well this year and won't be far off the POTY award. Jonathan Thurston he might not be but he's done well for us. Ideally we could do with someone with a bit more pace ball in hand but I don't think our problems have stemmed from the half backs this year, Finn's kicking has in fact won us a couple this year and we shouldn't discount the reliability of his boot too readily when talking replacements
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| People still slating Finn clearly don't get it. Finn controls everything allowing Miller to have a freer role.
Half backs at the moment seem to be as rare as hens teeth hence Saints signing Smith, so their wage demands will be inflated. Soward would be great but other than that why chuck cap space trying to fix something that isn't broken.
It is no coincidence Finn signs for a club and their league position improves. He may not be the high profile half who makes breaks and scores tries but in my opinion he has been a vital cog in a decent performing halfback partnership and a player that provides the team a blend of organisation and flair.
Injury is a real worry. Trinity have been lucky this year not picking up a serious knock to either half this season it may not go as well next year, so I do think it is important to improve strength in that area.
I know Trinity have been linked with Mateo, whilst he is a backrow forward if he signs, he has had plenty of experience playing in the halves and could provide an option as cover, making the cap and possible budget restrictions go a little further.
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| Quote ="jonh"People still slating Finn clearly don't get it. Finn controls everything allowing Miller to have a freer role.
Half backs at the moment seem to be as rare as hens teeth hence Saints signing Smith, so their wage demands will be inflated. Soward would be great but other than that why chuck cap space trying to fix something that isn't broken.
It is no coincidence Finn signs for a club and their league position improves. He may not be the high profile half who makes breaks and scores tries but in my opinion he has been a vital cog in a decent performing halfback partnership and a player that provides the team a blend of organisation and flair.
Injury is a real worry. Trinity have been lucky this year not picking up a serious knock to either half this season it may not go as well next year, so I do think it is important to improve strength in that area.
I know Trinity have been linked with Mateo, whilst he is a backrow forward if he signs, he has had plenty of experience playing in the halves and could provide an option as cover, making the cap and possible budget restrictions go a little further.'"
I'm happy with Finn and think he's arguably been our best player this season. But I think we should be looking to do something similar to what Cas did after their Wembley season if possible. Finn was excellent for them but they went out and brought in someone as class as Ben Roberts. I doubt we can get someone of that standard, but we definitely need another half back just for depth and we may as well try and get the best one available. If that means signing a new first choice half back then excellent, if it means we just get someone in as back up to Finn and Miller then that's fine too.
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| Quote ="jonh"People still slating Finn clearly don't get it. Finn controls everything allowing Miller to have a freer role.
Half backs at the moment seem to be as rare as hens teeth hence Saints signing Smith, so their wage demands will be inflated. Soward would be great but other than that why chuck cap space trying to fix something that isn't broken.
It is no coincidence Finn signs for a club and their league position improves. He may not be the high profile half who makes breaks and scores tries but in my opinion he has been a vital cog in a decent performing halfback partnership and a player that provides the team a blend of organisation and flair.
Injury is a real worry. Trinity have been lucky this year not picking up a serious knock to either half this season it may not go as well next year, so I do think it is important to improve strength in that area.
I know Trinity have been linked with Mateo, whilst he is a backrow forward if he signs, he has had plenty of experience playing in the halves and could provide an option as cover, making the cap and possible budget restrictions go a little further.'"
I'd agree with all of that - he's perennially under-rated and that's probably because he just gets on with his job without any of the flair or histrionics normally associated with a 'star' half-back. I like him a lot and he's probably won us 2 or 3 games this season with the boot - not to mention his ability to unleash Miller, who has much more X-factor than Finn, but is significantly less reliable.
We do need some back-up in the halves - but I'd be quite happy with Finn and Miller as the starting partnership next season.
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| Happy with Finn and Miller to start as first choice next season, i think they've earned the right, but i think everyone knows we need some cover. Ideally we would be looking for a younger version of Finn to work with him in preperation to replace him as, with the best will in the world, he probably only has one season left as a first choice at superleague level. He's 33 later this year and with about 400 games behind him you'd think age will start to catch up with him soon.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Happy with Finn and Miller to start as first choice next season, i think they've earned the right, but i think everyone knows we need some cover. Ideally we would be looking for a younger version of Finn to work with him in preperation to replace him as, with the best will in the world, he probably only has one season left as a first choice at superleague level. He's 33 later this year and with about 400 games behind him you'd think age will start to catch up with him soon.'"
Spot on and lets not forget his contribution with the boot
In terms of accuracy, Finn is right up there with the top goal kickers in SL and would top the kicking charts if we scored enough tries.
The number of games won, purely on the basis of his superior kicking has been excellent and seems to have been quickly forgotten or ignored by many fans on here.
If we have a competitive pack and if we ever manage to secure 50% possession, we will go ok next season.
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| Some times you can afford to carry a player if he lacks a little in one department but is worth a spot for what he brings in another. Finn is in that type of player profile he lacks pace but knows how to run a game and has a great boot on him and no matter where you score a try the odds are he will convert it for you. Age is the problem so why not look at a half who is up and coming for when he hangs the boots up. If he had got an injury this season we might have seen Scott Moore play 7 but that's if he hadn't looked at a ref the wrong way and Sio at 9.
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| Wouldn't mind Jordan Abdul coming to us - probably a long shot but a similar player to Finn with more to offer running with the ball as hes quite strong.
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| I agree with the mateo comment ----- he could be the back up IF he signs with us - how he fits in at Salford might determent it though
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Wouldn't mind Jordan Abdul coming to us - probably a long shot but a similar player to Finn with more to offer running with the ball as hes quite strong.'"
I would also be happy with Abdul, the guy is a talent but I think hull may end up keeping him especially with Pryce leaving.
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| I'm sure Abdul could pack a bit more weight on once Clogger got to work on him.
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