Kirmond seemed very upset at what he sees as a double movement, the video doesn't show as too the Ali's disallowed try. would love to see the rangi trip as its what I would expect from him and doubly to see him limp off

Sorry, not quite sure I get this - Is that one point or two?

Only thing I think you may be referring to with double movement is the Hansen try, but he doesn't move when he's down, simply reaches his arms out which is perfectly fine AFAIK?

two pal, hansons try and ali's disallowed one

The pass leading to the Hansen try looked a touch forward to me; Kirmo does appeal for a double movement, but it was a half-hearted appeal - the try itself looked fine.

As for the Ali incident - if Mullaney stopped Big Ali one on one, I'll eat my hat!

on ali lauitiiti`s try i was sat low down virtually on the ten metre line in the east stand , it looked a def try and the touch judge mouthed try to child`s straight away

It's amazing that Ali scored his try with 3 defenders on him and yet was deemed not to have grounded the ball 1 on 1.
People always say to look at the players reaction and I think that Ali knows that he scored (but it wasn't given)

I thought it was Tim Smith that held him up....I'd better look at that again.

Tim Smith held up - Something that Noble's taught him

Kirmond was just generally moaning all game at absolutely everything.

I don't know if Smith managed much, he was late in the tackle - Mullaney wrapped his arm around the ball as soon as he got there though. I'm not saying it was held up or not, it's just hard to see from what little evidence we have IMO.

They both look like tough calls to me, but the amount of defenders is irrelevant really, it only takes one arm, leg or whatever under a ball to stop it being grounded.

Edit: Sorry for the double post!

No way Lauititi grounded the ball Mullaney was smothering it from the moment Lauititi ran into him.

That would be a first then; Kevin Sinfield he is not. Are you sure wasn't just talking to the ref, as is his right as the captain?

I think I get it now - you're one of *those* kinds of fans aren't you?

Lauitiiti as many rugby league fans know is a superb carrier of the ball and he has the strength and skills to switch ball carrying hands 1 on 1 I dont think any player could prevent him getting it down.

And yet he managed to ground the ball with 3 players in attendance


As Richard Agar said, he has never known Ali not score when its 1 on 1, plus Ali told Agar after the game that he had grounded the ball.

He's not going to admit that he didnt ground it though is he?
Anyway why do you keep going over it again and again you lossed the game simple as that, let it go.

Oh the irony.

LET IT GO!

Why don't you just GO...

Who do you think your are! This is our forum and we can debate what the hell we want amongst ourselves for as long as we wish. So do one you jumped up little nobody.

Such a shame Mike87 wasn't here this time last year... Anyway any player wouldn't be able to prevent big Ali from scoring 1 on 1. Luke Dorn found that out the hard way.

The way Mike hangs around its like Salford won by 60 points, hes probably the only person on here I cant tolerate and that Red League... OH WAIT.

You've got it lucky that he's not a Wakey fan!

There is no definite way you can state that. Mullaney at 5 ft 8 and 12 1/2 stone smothering Lauitiiti at 6 ft 3 and 18 stone when in full throttle to the line? Unlikely but the match has been and gone.... Let's all move on and look forward.

Couple of good touches for Pita in that game especially the flat ball at the line that was class.

The intercept is his thing.

I wonder if Fans will take to him over there ?

and I thought you were a smart man!

I'd be surprised if Tim Smith could hold up his lobber, let alone Ali Lauititi

If you're correct then please be in attendance at Wakefield Catherdral this lunchtime, where my buttocks will be proudly on show