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| One good thing i suppose is that the ldf reports should be done by then which can only help a positive outcome.
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| Pointless giving a deadline when it can just be changed. still its only 20 days later than originally stated, in the grand scheme of things 3 weeks is nothing. Buggers up TRB's countdown though!
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Just pass it already, there's no reason not to. Needless delay really, isn't it?
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| Don't panic!
SC has beaten me to putting this up on here, but we see this as a minor delay in the grand scheme of things.
The excercise is nothing more than another backside covering procedure by the SoS and, if anything (and IA will explain more later), it probably helps our cause in the long run as the new planning system is much more developer freindly!
So it's a delay, and I'll have to re-set the timer, but nothing more!
HTH
D-61 and counting! #newmarketnewopportunity
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| No its a pain in the proverbial. I'm at my sisters wedding in cyprus that day!!! Finding out is gunna be a bugger!
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| How many n's in planning? I cant believe how much red tape there has been for our application!! It seems everytime we see a deadline it gets preceded by MORE legislation putting it back even further!!! fed up now!!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"This is an absolute joke!!!
The new framework makes NM a certainty so why on earth they need another month is beyond me!!!!
Frustration overload!!!!!'"
Its not the Local Development Framework (LDF) its the new National Planning Policy Framework which only came in on March 27th 2012.
All the SoS is doing is making sure that anyone who wishes to comment on the application in relation to the New Planning Policy Framework has an opportunity to do so. If he didn't there may be some who claim he has not followed procedures and as I understand it they could call for a Judicial Revue. You cannot appeal against the decision of the SoS but if its believed he has not followed the correct procedures then a Judicial Review could be called and if its held that procedures have not been followed the whole process may have to start all over again with an even longer delay.
This delay is nothing but that, a delay of 20 days. No reason for anyone to smell a rat or anything. Correct procedures are being followed to ensure that the decision cannot be challenged which will be helpful to us.
All it means is that TRB will have to put his clock back 20 days, nothing more.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"
This delay is nothing but that, a delay of 20 days. No reason for anyone to smell a rat or anything. Correct procedures are being followed to ensure that the decision cannot be challenged which will be helpful to us.
All it means is that TRB will have to put his clock back 20 days, nothing more.'"
20 days is nothing when compared to how long we have been waiting! Besides I'm still enjoying the new look and facilities of Belle Vue (a welcome distraction sometimes to what's on the pitch!))
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Its not the Local Development Framework (LDF) its the new National Planning Policy Framework which only came in on March 27th 2012.
All the SoS is doing is making sure that anyone who wishes to comment on the application in relation to the New Planning Policy Framework has an opportunity to do so. If he didn't there may be some who claim he has not followed procedures and as I understand it they could call for a Judicial Revue. You cannot appeal against the decision of the SoS but if its believed he has not followed the correct procedures then a Judicial Review could be called and if its held that procedures have not been followed the whole process may have to start all over again with an even longer delay.
This delay is nothing but that, a delay of 20 days. No reason for anyone to smell a rat or anything. Correct procedures are being followed to ensure that the decision cannot be challenged which will be helpful to us.
All it means is that TRB will have to put his clock back 20 days, nothing more.'"
I know, it's the simplified 50 odd page new development friendly planning policy, that has now put back a no brainer decision by three more weeks!!
That's the frustration!!!
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| No reason to feel disheartened by this - it doesn't allow any new objections to be lodged.
My take on this is that it will be approved and Mr Pickles will want his decision to bear scrutiny, so he's ensuring that the process has been followed to the letter, taking account of the new planning legislation, which is after all more development friendly than previously.
Keep calm and carry on!
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| Here we go hold tight .
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| It is frustrating but equally it is once again actually yet another positive sign in terms of a potential successful outcome, so a 20 day delay to the 19th June (but again, on or before the 19th June) is worth it!
The SoS office has written to the people/groups who spoke at the inquiry and given us the opportunity to make a further written representation in light of the new National Planning Policy Framework, which came into force on the 27th March. As I posted and the media reported, the new 50 page framework is significantly more pro-development than the old 1000 page document that it replaced. As such, this document supports the development much more than the old document did and although it does have some things I am sure the objectors will point and cling to as being clear indicators of why it should still be turned down, there are many more new points that outweigh these quite significantly.
Also, I am little suspicious (but pleased, if true) that the SoS office has seen and grasped an opportunity to once again slightly delay the PI outcome announcement so that the LDF outcome will be published before the PI decision!!! They surely know that it looks highly likely the LDF inspector is going to agree that Newmarket indeed is (and always was) the best site available to meet the plan for the required B8 development on the M62 and that as there was no significant objection to the Stadium, they want to put themselves in the strongest possible position to pass the site. The final LDF report should be in the public domain before the 19th June and it therefore makes the decision to pass the PI both very easy and in light of the LDF, very uncontroversial!
So, just a few more days to wait but genuinely, I think it is going to worth the wait!
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat" All the SoS is doing is making sure that anyone who wishes to comment on the application in relation to the New Planning Policy Framework has an opportunity to do so. If he didn't there may be some who claim he has not followed procedures and as I understand it they could call for a Judicial Revue. You cannot appeal against the decision of the SoS but if its believed he has not followed the correct procedures then a Judicial Review could be called and if its held that procedures have not been followed the whole process may have to start all over again with an even longer delay.
This delay is nothing but that, a delay of 20 days. No reason for anyone to smell a rat or anything. Correct procedures are being followed to ensure that the decision cannot be challenged which will be helpful to us.'"
I think this is spot on! I think this delay is all about a clear and transparent justification of a positive outcome and not about delaying a negative decision!
If Eric Pickles office was going to turn this down... I think they would have done it weeks ago!!!
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Its not the Local Development Framework (LDF) its the new National Planning Policy Framework which only came in on March 27th 2012.
All the SoS is doing is making sure that anyone who wishes to comment on the application in relation to the New Planning Policy Framework has an opportunity to do so. If he didn't there may be some who claim he has not followed procedures and as I understand it they could call for a Judicial Revue. You cannot appeal against the decision of the SoS but if its believed he has not followed the correct procedures then a Judicial Review could be called and if its held that procedures have not been followed the whole process may have to start all over again with an even longer delay.
This delay is nothing but that, a delay of 20 days. No reason for anyone to smell a rat or anything. Correct procedures are being followed to ensure that the decision cannot be challenged which will be helpful to us.
All it means is that TRB will have to put his clock back 20 days, nothing more.'"
Thanks for that, its easy to understand and will calm the troops.
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| i was thinking about having a bit of a panic but i will hold off a little longer.
i just hope that this does not delay the whole start on site significantly - we are still working to a deadline set by superleague!!
- and if a previous poster was correct, and we are waiting for pickles to finish his dinner it will be later than the 19th June!!! even abu hanza (sp) might be deported before this gets passed
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
If Eric Pickles office was going to turn this down... I think they would have done it weeks ago!!!'"
I think this is 100% correct, far easier to have published a negative decision than a positive one as the objectors will be happy and the supporters would quietly sulk in the corner, if/when the positive decision is made, the objectors will not sulk quietly off they will still rant and clutch at straws, the SoS needs to remove the straws before the announcement
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| As I said last week, my feelings on the outcome shift momentarily. It's the current government that scare me, they seem to be able to produce an impeccable form of incompetence.
From pensions to granny taxes to deporting innocent citizens/retaining dangerous foreign nationals- you name it, they've messed it up!
Worst part is as an ex libdem voter I feel more disenfranchised than most.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think this is spot on! I think this delay is all about a clear and transparent justification of a positive outcome and not about delaying a negative decision!
If Eric Pickles office was going to turn this down... I think they would have done it weeks ago!!!'" Or to play devils advocate he is delaying it to a give clear and transparent justification of a negative outcome.
I think it will be passed myself but there are 2 ways to look at it.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Or to play devils advocate he is delaying it to a give clear and transparent justification of a negative outcome.
I think it will be passed myself but there are 2 ways to look at it.'"
Didn't see it quite that way, but to play the same card - if the case is watertight, you don't need to wait for anything. The new legislation would surely put pay to any lingering arguments.
HOWEVER, as Sandal Cat has stated, it's not really about that, it's about closing any legal loopholes that may exist between the new legislation coming into effect and the propositions that were put forward prior to this.
For the sake of 20 days, I'd be prepared to wait.
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| Quote ="jacques"Comments by whom?
To give the anti lobby further time to formulate protests.
I smell a rat I am afraid.
I hate to say it , but this is just what my experience in life led me to expect.'"
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| Quote ="kinleycat"This is an absolute joke!!!
The new framework makes NM a certainty so why on earth they need another month is beyond me!!!!
Frustration overload!!!!!'"
Keep hitting it into the long grass...hope it goes away. Old political tactic. There'll be more reasons to delay, mark my words
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| We have been unlucky with the timing of this PI. First it was the localism act delaying the LDF, then the new planning act coming in before the outcome is released. The SOS could have proceeded under the old rules as that was what the planning was judged against but can also use the new rules as the dcision is still pending. With the delay in publication of the LDF, which is very much in favour of deveolping the site, the 30th may was always going to be tight if Mr Pickles wanted to judge it against that. The delay gives him that opportunity. And judging it against the new criteria also makes it even more likely that a positive outcome will happen. It is very pro development but it also means that one or two legalities have to be covered to ensure there is no comeback. If he was going to reject it then it would have been easier to do it now using the old rules. I get the feeling Mr Pickles wants to pass this and is using every way possible to justify doing so even if it means delaying it slightly. Its an inconvenience, but ultimately ad strange as it may seem, it is a promising development.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Didn't see it quite that way, but to play the same card - if the case is watertight, you don't need to wait for anything. The new legislation would surely put pay to any lingering arguments.
HOWEVER, as Sandal Cat has stated, it's not really about that, it's about closing any legal loopholes that may exist between the new legislation coming into effect and the propositions that were put forward prior to this.
For the sake of 20 days, I'd be prepared to wait.'" Oh indeed.
But I wouldn't use the delay to try and make a case either way is my point.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"But I wouldn't use the delay to try and make a case either way is my point.'"
Most of us on here aint buying till our s are sweating in the plastic buckets, don't you worry. And if we don't get them, we'll go to plan 'K'.
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