I accept its your opinon but i think its way too harsh on Bibb, he's had some good games for us and made good yards for a young man still learning the game.

I would have hoped that the pack be rotated this season but due to injuries its not happened.

Frankie baby, we'll have to wait and see on that one.

Why do some folk never learn!

Here we are at a club that has taken every waif and stray on board and patiently waited for them to blossom. How long has it taken Wilkes, Moore and Bibey to hit form. Wilkes spent most of his career in NL1 as a lost cause and is only now playing as a SL player. So why expect a rookie to do it in 12 month. Of course Bibb made errors yesterday and he will continue to do so until his learning curve is complete.

Both he and Pitts have been exceptional as both were never expected to play so many games this season. Yet Winterstien is yet to play a game and he is given huge raps, unbeleivable it really is.

Bibb was not the only player that made stupid mistakes yesterday it was just unfortunate that he dropped the ball in a part of the game that nearly turned it for Bradford.

So far he has done a decent job as a rotation prop. It was clear yesterday that we struggled for size and muscle upfront and as long as we have our prop injury list I think he is worth his place.

IMO neither of these two should have played so many back to back games, but they have and they have not lets us down.

Frankies overseas so he must be far better and bordering on world class.

no need to be bitter



although on a serious note why do some always look for a scapegoat , kyle will learn as the seniors will develop him into a much brighter prospect .

dont forget that about 13 years ago we told Peacock that he would never make the grade

Now at last someone starting to talk sense..... We have signed him from the NRL therefore he must be a superstar!

Not just us, even Bradford at the time didn't think much of him.

I've seen him play plenty of times since he was a schoolboy at Endeavour High and playing juniors for the Roosters.
I was taught if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Whats the verdict on FW then, do you think he'll fit in and what are his strong/weak points.

Ta.

I think that Bibb is our weakest forward, but he his doing his job.

He has always been a wide running lock/2nd rower.
He is tall and has decent ball skills but hasn't got a real high workrate.

Hard to predict how successful he'll be but if any coach can take his game to new heights it's JK.

May well be true Josh, but we get a decent effort from him and he's put his body on the line for us when we needed it.

Don't know if it is just me but the thing with Bibb is that he looks quite lazy. Other young players from other clubs and Pitts etc. seem to be full of energy. Young forwards do struggle and get knocked back in most tackles but Bibb doesn't seem to run with the energy to get knocked back. Mabe this is all down to his size but in the Cas game he looked a different player, in attack and defence, why can't he play like that more often.

Cast your mind back to last year. Bibey was getting some real stick and was considered the weakest forward. His hit ups looked lazy and he often stopped as he approached the defensive line.

This season he was a different player; taking the ball up at full pelt, deftly offloading to supporting colleagues and slipping quick passes out creating gaps. Bibb, other then a few dropped balls, did OK today and looked a little more lively when running the ball up. He will improve with time and unfortunately that is not something, as supporters, we give to young players. If he’s not James Graham or Sam Burgess then he’s no good.

Well said.

I totally disagree, for me Bibb had a very good game except two errors in our own twenty. He ran the ball in strong and made some good yards. I'm not quite sure people are expecting from a young prop.

The lad is coming along very nicely and has had to play more than his fair share of games for a young lad. The game was full of errors which is due to tired players but that is the nature of the Easter period.

OMG, opinions




Looks like we have our scapegoat.

ALL our players give 100% - there have been times in the past when this wasn't so and supporters then had a right to be angry, but not now. Consider how far these youngsters have come in the last year or two. If they can maintain that rate of progress they will be fine. in the mean time we, as supporters, owe them our full support and thanks for stepping up to the mark when duty called, and I for one think they have done us proud!

So, Bibb, Pitts, Murphy, Blake and all our youngsters...

Got everything going for him to make ya think he'd become a decent player....but he's not gonna be good enough.
Ar kid made a good comparison ..reckon's he's gonna be another Chris Feather..got all the attributes but got no heart..!!

Thats correct, for years we've asked for hard work and honesty in our players, not for world beaters but for honest grafters who play with pride in our shirt.

Where as you and your kid were GB internationals - when people start spouting nonesense about a young player like that all credibility is lost IMHO.

Can't agree with you there. He has plenty of heart and did alot of carries yesterday to help out a tired side. Our forwards have looked the business since Broadbent came in

I rate Bibb. Think he has been very good for us this season. Those people saying he looks lazy need to remember he is a big lads and guys of his size do not throw themselves about like diminutive half backs. He did look a little pedestrian yesterday I agree.

To those "bigging" up big Frank. From what I saw from his run out in the reserves he is no world beater at this moment in time so don't get too exited.

FWIW on Murphy not defusing a bomb (shock horror while under pressure) are you suggesting he should be dropped for Petterson. Please cast your mind back to the first 18 minutes at the Keepmoat. I like Murphy and think he is doing a fantastic job.

Please remember folks we are not Saints we are Wakefield. Just cast your minds back a few years. We are unrecognisable as a team from the. But please don't start calling for heads when the wheels drop off as we have no god given right to catch every 50 50 ball and win every match.

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Absolutely spot on and an excellent post Jason.