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| Quote ="Theboyem"Thats all very noble but the longer people are just dutifully willing to accept the dirge we are seeing on a too regular basis then the more likely the club will suffer until it gets to a point where it can carry on no longer. And saying that someone who has already decided enough is enough and stopped coming through the gate due to Agars failings is not part of the majority is not just rubbish, its plain daft. Just maybe the fans can force change by showing their disatisfaction by whatever way they deem fit.
As it happens, mainly due to the fact Bradford are even worse than us, i think we might just sneak a win next weekend. But it doesn't alter the fact that i think its time for a change and the sooner the better.'"
I think Bradford will win and then they will get two points back, which leaves us four in front and London the week after will put us up to six clear, then two more wins should do it, but yes just over three thou is not good when MC was budgeting on six thou I think
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| Idiotic signing 36 year old player not played in over a year thrown into our most important game for 8 years. Who next Viva Brad or Vowlesy?
We wont beat Bradford in fact I honestly believe they'll do us by 20-30. Simply because they'll have targeted the game as must win and be fired up which we wont cope with. Seems to me the attitude is win or lose "happy days".
However I would tolerate defeat, as we never win at Odsal even with decent non-experimental sides but to lose to London at home which isn't that unlikely would be the end for me until Agar's gone.
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| Warrington crowd was poor, but it was also raining on bank holiday weekend.
We were never going to get 8k so let's be reasonable.
So I don't quite see it as a sign of the end of the world but it needs improving.
Also MC made the point at the beginning of the season that he'd rather have 4k where everybody pays
Smaller crowds than last year can also mean that the free loaders have stopped coming.
Only MC can answer that.
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| It was raining, what sort of excuse is that? I've stood there in hail, rain, sleet, snow the lot and without a stand too. The fact is people are fed up with continually getting short changed and fobbed off. The weather has never put anyone off, if the product is worth watching then they'll come no matter. Even poor teams in the past have encouraged me to go - they at least gave their all for the supporters, I can live with that, what I can't abide is a lack of effort from players and coach alike.
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| Isn't this why we spent money covering certain parts of the ground, so people couldn't use the 'it was raining and I'm not getting wet watching that'.
If I remember, it was drizzling in the morning but the rest of the day was pretty fair.
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| Quote ="trin77"We wont beat Bradford in fact I honestly believe they'll do us by 20-30. Simply because they'll have targeted the game as must win and be fired up which we wont cope with.'"
That's how I see it panning out and I know a few others who think the same. I've heard one comment saying Bradford will probably get 40. At the moment I wouldn't even begin to argue against that happening.
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| Same set up as Sunday, Bradford win easily.
Play players in their correct positions, we should win comfortably.
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| Quote ="les-goose"vastman - while I agree with most of your post I think its a bit unfair to suggest MC don't care.Anyone who puts their home on the line must care for gods sake would you put yours on the line I know I wouldn't have as much as I love this club.I think Agar has reverted to his days at Hull and playing Washbrook out of position at 6 and it looks like he is playing fantasy rugby league once again.I have said before that we have never had a good defence under his tenure and have let some real soft scores in against us.
For me MC has the best interests of the club but as he said early doors he don't know much about Rugby but loves the game.'"
We thought that about Glover.
I don't know if you know him personally in which case you know more than I but if not you're being a touch naive.
I'm not outright accusing him of anything unto wards but I've said before his motives remain unclear. As for putting his home on the line I wouldn't read to much into that. It's a nice idea to think it was noble and to a degree it was but it was as I understand also an act of financial self preservation. Yes he put his money on the line, but if he hadn't he stood to lose his original investment. I admire the fact he knuckled down and sorted it in a sensible manner rather than walk away but lets not over romanticise it for more than what it was.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Steady old boy the last man who said we will be in admin was shot on here
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Baz stop twisting it, you know as well as I do it was never about what you said but when and how you said it.
That said!! it would appear that some people remain far to trusting towards individuals - this despite four years of hard lessons - odd.
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| Quote ="vastman"Baz stop twisting it, you know as well as I do it was never about what you said but when and how you said it.
That said!! it would appear that some people remain far to trusting towards individuals - this despite four years of hard lessons - odd.'"
How i said it and when, yes the bloody truth Vasty
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| Quote ="bazzo44"How i said it and when, yes the bloody truth Vasty'"
Do we have to go over old ground AGAIN, move on Baz you'll have your time again I'm sure.
Just because you know something doesn't mean you have to say it.
I could give you an example but I get the feeling I'd be wasting my time.
Anyway the point stands as we have far more to worry about than your or my hurt pride.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Warrington crowd was poor, but it was also raining on bank holiday weekend.
We were never going to get 8k so let's be reasonable.
So I don't quite see it as a sign of the end of the world but it needs improving.
Also MC made the point at the beginning of the season that he'd rather have 4k where everybody pays
Smaller crowds than last year can also mean that the free loaders have stopped coming.
Only MC can answer that.'"
He's said on FB that although crowds have dropped, ticket revenue has remained steady so make of that what you will.
Interesting to see that he still uses social media to communicate with the fans but no longer on here due to the slavering whingers who infest the board these days.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"He's said on FB that although crowds have dropped, ticket revenue has remained steady so make of that what you will.
Interesting to see that he still uses social media to communicate with the fans but no longer on here due to the slavering whingers who infest the board these days.'"
Well why don't you do one then
Seriously it's a free country, we don't all have to toe the party line do we.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"He's said on FB that although crowds have dropped, ticket revenue has remained steady so make of that what you will.
Interesting to see that he still uses social media to communicate with the fans but no longer on here due to the slavering whingers who infest the board these days.'"
As iv'e always seen it,its the clubs that cause the problems and the fans on messageboards like this one that react to it
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| Quote ="vastman"Well why don't you do one then
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And deprive myself of top quality banter such as this?
I think it speaks volumes that he can go onto facebook and talk about the club, respond to peoples concerns etc - yet he was driven off of here by the element I speak of.
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| To be fair, quite a few advised him not to be on here.
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| Don't mean you mean his previous username has gone
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| Have thought a lot about why attendances are falling away. Its a complex issue. However supporting any club and turning up week after week whatever the results is all about having a bond with the team . We are told to back the badge but I dont feel and bond with a badge or a name, I do feel a bond with players. I like to see Wakefield lads coming through the ranks and giving there all in the first team . I also like to see overseas players who have something different to offer like the tim smith no look pass , or ovrrseas players who are prepared to bust a gut for the club as I believe Matt Ryan has in every game he played. I dont agree wth short term loan signings . This season we seem to have brought in a new player every week , there has been no consistency in team selection .I turn up each week and cannot recognise half the players in the trinity shirt. I see no progression in the team. I am sorry but back the badge is a load of rubbish. I want to back players who are committed to playing for Trinity, at least for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Don't mean you mean his previous username has gone'"
Well I never
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| Quote ="PopTart"To be fair, quite a few advised him not to be on here.'"
Indeed, the reason being that a small but very vocal number of posters are incapable of making reasonable points or asking reasonable questions in a reasonable manner.
I'm not some happy clappy who thinks the sun shines out of the players/staffs backsides and should be immune from criticism, but dishing out insults and abuse over the internet to them are not the actions of a supporter in my mind.
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| The signings of Owen and Gilmour are pretty consistent with what RA does during the season.
Just before last years Cup game he signed Molloy and about this time last year he signed Tautai.
He had done the same at FC.
The only reason that it's Owen and Gilmour, is that we don't have a quota spot left.
I thought it was good to sign players midway through the season, gives the fans a bit of a boost but now I believe it's just a smoke screen to distract the fans.
Unfortunately these two have not ignited the imagination, the only plus side is that they probably won't get lured away by a bigger club!
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| Just had a look on the facebook pages and I see very little difference, some more vocal posters condemning certain topics on here and the opposite hero worshipper's on there.
Plenty of room for all posters/fans to make comment, don't see what the issue is tbh.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Just had a look on the facebook pages and I see very little difference, some more vocal posters condemning certain topics on here and the opposite hero worshipper's on there.
Plenty of room for all posters/fans to make comment, don't see what the issue is tbh.'"
Yep. Same with twitter.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"The signings of Owen and Gilmour are pretty consistent with what RA does during the season.
Just before last years Cup game he signed Molloy and about this time last year he signed Tautai.
He had done the same at FC.
The only reason that it's Owen and Gilmour, is that we don't have a quota spot left.
I thought it was good to sign players midway through the season, gives the fans a bit of a boost but now I believe it's just a smoke screen to distract the fans.
Unfortunately these two have not ignited the imagination, the only plus side is that they probably won't get lured away by a bigger club!
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Or perhaps it's that this is the time of year you can start talking to clubs about signing players.
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| Typical of Agar's mid season forays into the transfer/loan market.
Ignore what we've got and take a punt on an unknown quantity.
#clutchingatstraws
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