I don't think praising hard work and good ideas is going over the top, it should be the norm, just pointing out that after the abyss we have been staring into recently and the general lack if inertia from ted's "running" of the club, that they are clear for all to see, very welcome and a step in the right direction.
For some that appears to be a bitter pill, and i find that to be poor form.

No, it's plain that some look at things from all the angle and apply reason. You simply look at things in whatever way suits your beat up a scapegoat mentality.

You are entitled to comment on Ted as he is the past, but to claim to know the future is much brighter backed up with very little evidence is plain daft.

So far AG has made all the right noises I don't dispute that. However that's all they are for now, none and I mean none of the core issues have yet been addressed, but then using rationale why would they be the timescale has been too short. So all we have for now is window dressing and I'm not knocking that but the truth is anyone with some spare cash and a debt free club could manage that.

I don't know how long you have supported the club but the Pearman fiasco should be warning enough not to get carried away. That is all I'm warning about, it's not taking the moral high ground or whatever glib label you want to throw at it, it's not my fault you can't accept an alternative train of thought - that's your problem.

For gods sake Andrew Glover been here a month. What he's managed to do in such a short time above all else is bring the feel-good factor back, which for a team running last is no mean feat. By starting to sort the little things like putting bulbs in the floodlights, a lick of paint here and there, a more helpful & competent attitude in the shop etc, he has showed he is having a go of righting the wrongs of the previous regime. Yes they may only be little, inexpensive things but ones that make a big impression. They are things that could and should have already been done, financial issues or not. Ted may have done good in the past but by the time he left he had long since outstayed his welcome and his actions had become questionable. There is no doubt the damage he had done through the decisions he had made damn-near killed the club. AG has a mighty job to turn it round and it won't happen overnight but as starts go he couldn't have done much more. But yes it is also fair to say that the real job starts now and he will ultimately be judged in three years time when the next round of licensing takes place. Lets sit back and enjoy the ride.

Waistcoats.

Let's not forget the waistcoats! Do they have matching bow ties?

You were slightly amusing the first time Billy.

Now, just a tad boring. Over egged the pudding so's to speak.

Why don't you read what's posted instead of jumping to an OTT conclusion. No one as far as I can see is suggesting anything other than what you put.

However as another poster put it, give it six month, bottom of the league and no new signings it will be CARNAGE on here. Sadly those inflicting it will be the same people on here singing his praises right now - mark my words.

By being realistic and lowering some of the more OTT expectation should spare AG the worst of it. Unless AG can pull a rabbit out of the hat soon we will be NRL1 bound and then the problems really will start. I'll give him all the time in the world but plenty of others won't. Just like I have with Ted I'll stand by him and I won't blame him for everything if he fails but again plenty will. Sorry but that's how I see it.

100% right, the amount of posters who said this are countless, but under ted, all you ever heard was batman and robin speaking on his behalf in defence, claiming us underlings know nothing.
these are tiny things that are now being done right, if you dont have squillions in the bank, do the small cheep things right.
point proved, next!!!

1. Why are we in such a corner than only an act of magic can save us from being refused a franchise?
2. I hope you will, as i hope everyone will, the CARNAGE that we are currently picking our way through, will take time to clear up, hopefully we will all see enough along the way to see that there is something worth it at the end of the tunnel.

If people on here aren't suggesting anything other than what I have put why is it an OTT conclusion?

AG has done a good job in the last month. Why shouldn't he get praise? If he makes a cock-up of things he will get criticised and rightly so. Such is life. But as it stands people need to get behind him and support his ideas not just sit waiting for him to fail so they can say nothings changed, i told you so. Lets be honest it has to be made to work this time because one more failure will probably be our last. And in six months time we will know whether we are getting a licence or not and probably have a decision on Newmarket, both factors that are out of AG's control to a large extent. So anybody that critises him should the decisions not go in our favour doesn't have a leg to stand on. He has said that the club is sustainable in the lower divsion, you've got to trust his judgment. Without him we wouldn't be here now, he deserves our total support, not just now but long term.

I suspect Wildthingy, you're not big on the sartorial aspect of the improvements that Mr Glover is attempting, eh?

im about to get my magic wand out , if you think Copperfield is good just watch in amazement whilst i make a rhino disappear befor your very eyes .

or maybe billy no mates will do one voluntary and spare the embarrassment .



keep on topic ducks

It was on topic.....the improvements being brought about by Mr Glover?

Middle digit ducks, and good luck in the coop championship!

Thanks for nothing and goodbye.

Vastman's day job

Thanks for putting your total slant on my post where you have sadly totally missed the point and turned into a vast spin on the issues raised. I am sorry but like you I am entitled to my opinion, as for poodle look in the mirror mate.

Do I really need to answer that?

We are about to vacate our ground to move to another town - there is no going back, certainly not where SL is concerned.

We have been in admin, I know that hurdle has been removed but it's still in peoples minds and I would not be surprised if it conveniently comes back in true RL style.

We may finish bottom and that could easily count.

All the above can be overcome - if - time doesn't run out. Time is the one thing AG can't stop or slow down. Oakwell can only ever be considered temporary. So NM has to happen and if it gets delayed too long then our position weakens for the next franchise - assuming we make it this time. If it doesn't happen IMHO we have no future and will just whither and die in Barnsley. I'm optimistic but also realistic.

I do know about the Stadium, as a member of the SWAG committee from the start. Although the "old regime" made a few minor boo boos they generally got it right. Both the Community Stadium and now N/M broke down or in N/M case stalled through no fault of the clubs and I don't think even you would argue that. So it's taken us 7 years to get to where we are, so my gut feeling tells me that things will continue to move slowly. It's going to be a real balancing act, that said AG may be a lucky owner and things might go our way, who knows.

If there is a conspricy to remove us from SL they will never have a better chance than now, I don't think I'm being over dramatic. I don't actually believe there is one but many seem too.

On your second point, fair enough.

Yes it is my slant, sadly because it's the slant that doesn't suit the majority it just gets shouted down by the loadmouth on here (not you).

Yes I am a poodle or was it says so on my avatar - not had chance to meet the new dog walker just yet. Odd really, for backing the old board I was a poodle, if I suddenly and blindly back AG does that make me a poodle or just one of the new gang on here who have all the answers and trust it all to AG?

Fickle game RL...

1. edited for accuracy
2. yes it does.

why say it in one sentence when you can say it in lots!!!
Because we were mismanaged for most of our SL existence, because the RFL were fed up of Teds broken promises.
I WONT/cant supply the link, but its official, from people who =#FF4000know a dam sight more than you.
Sorry its my popular slant.

No one knows more than Vasty



On a more serious note, a few on here doing the rounds with PM's have motives that leave alot to be desired, don't be taken in so easily by them.

Trust no one and always back up against a wall my friend.

Well on the subject of our previous owners whilst i know its not nice to revel in anothers misfortune, and trust me I know exactly how they feel because obviously I was there as well, but a certain female former board member was lining up in the jobcentre this morning waiting to sign on. Strangley (and maybe wrongly) I felt a sense of justice having been done for once. Hope shes willing to take a pay cut to match her abilities.

That is so sad it's laughable.

To use your latest gimmick EDITED FOR ACCURACY - My mates in the pub who I like to gossip with and will believe owt they say that suits me know a lot more than you. ADD RED COLOUR TO MAKE MY POINT. THEN OVER USE EMOTICONS BECAUSE I'M TOO SLACK TO FIND THE ACTUAL WORDS TO MAKE MY POINT.

You won't or you can't, which is it? and as a matter of interest [uwho[/u are these people who know a dam sight more, perhaps you would like to elaborate a bit more for those of us that know nothing.

Ted goes out drinking on a Thursday, just go ask him

Cats bar

maybe not.