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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"We do have Gilmour that fits that bill to some extent, although he moved into the pack. I generally agree though, I think finding a former good halfback/back who's now moved into Coaching and wants to continue his development at an SL club would be beneficial . Tbh though I've really racked my brain to think of a coach/ex SL players who's moved into Coaching that could do that job and it's hard. Most of the guys that come to mind are former Coaches that are out of work and I don't think that's what we're looking for.
Anyone got any names just to kick things off while there's not much to talk about and what you think they'd bring to what we already have?'"
What about Bobby Goulding ???
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| Quote ="FIL"What about Bobby Goulding ???
or Gary Schofield *ducks*
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| Garry Schofield may not be a bad shout. Although the bloke didn't quite do it as a head coach a specific job as a skills coach may be the right niche for him. Say what you like about him ( I don't mind him at all, there's no denying his passion) the bloke has been there and done it at the highest level.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Garry Schofield may not be a bad shout. Although the bloke didn't quite do it as a head coach a specific job as a skills coach may be the right niche for him. Say what you like about him ( I don't mind him at all, there's no denying his passion) the bloke has been there and done it at the highest level.'"
he would want more vision and awareness
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Garry Schofield may not be a bad shout. Although the bloke didn't quite do it as a head coach a specific job as a skills coach may be the right niche for him. Say what you like about him ( I don't mind him at all, there's no denying his passion) the bloke has been there and done it at the highest level.'"
You may be right but JK was defensive where as I suspect Schofields skills would be more attacking?
Morrison was a great defensive player so maybe he's worth a shout.
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| Paul Cooke would be a great coaching acquisition, he’s been outstanding at Doncaster and Leigh.
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| Whilst I appreciate that JK has joined Bulls, presumably on a full-time basis, and as there is no real conflict of interests due to our respective league positions, if he could be put into a sort of "retainer/advisor position with WT. In the way that we can loan players out to other clubs with dual registration etc why can't the same happen with team management? Especially as today's WE explains how JK left the club with a very heavy heart.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Paul Cooke would be a great coaching acquisition, he’s been outstanding at Doncaster and Leigh.'"
I agree. I firmly believe that players who made a lot of mistakes and did not reach their true potential as players and he made more than most make the best coaches. Or alternatively players who never really made it as top players but never stopped trying or finally those who's careers were cut short by injuries. Brain Clough and Alex Ferguson are two classic examples.
Peter Fox is a great example as is Kear in RL.
I think it's all to do with empathy and an understanding of players weaknesses as well as strength. I think top players who had it all including the winning attitude often seem to lack patience and the ability to see beyond the obvious.
Just my opinion.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Whilst I appreciate that JK has joined Bulls, presumably on a full-time basis, and as there is no real conflict of interests due to our respective league positions, if he could be put into a sort of "retainer/advisor position with WT. In the way that we can loan players out to other clubs with dual registration etc why can't the same happen with team management? Especially as today's WE explains how JK left the club with a very heavy heart.'"
Can't see that happening mate, JK's full time and his energy and concentration will be needed sorting the Bulls out and we know he doesn't do jobs half-d.
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| Quote ="vastman"I agree. I firmly believe that players who made a lot of mistakes and did not reach their true potential as players and he made more than most make the best coaches. Or alternatively players who never really made it as top players but never stopped trying or finally those who's careers were cut short by injuries. Brain Clough and Alex Ferguson are two classic examples.
Peter Fox is a great example as is Kear in RL.
I think it's all to do with empathy and an understanding of players weaknesses as well as strength. I think top players who had it all including the winning attitude often seem to lack patience and the ability to see beyond the obvious.
Just my opinion.'"
Yeah. I think a lot of us have heard what a good job he's done since turning his hand to Coaching and tbh that's the best call yet, short list mind.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Our two new assistant coaches have emerged...'"
Really I am no coach and no intention to be one I am a speccy that's all! but its a fact that in order to win you have to out score the opposition no qualifications required for that.
Thanks for the pop at what was a reasonable answer to point posed
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yeah. I think a lot of us have heard what a good job he's done since turning his hand to Coaching and tbh that's the best call yet, short list mind.
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He caused quite a few problems between the players at Leigh if you believe what the fans say.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"He caused quite a few problems between the players at Leigh if you believe what the fans say.'"
Which is exactly why no one should listen to what 'fans' say. Fans just want scapegoats not facts.
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| Quote ="vastman"[uWhich is exactly why no one should listen to what 'fans' say[/u. Fans just want scapegoats not facts.'"
Simple question without a 3 paragraph reply, a yes or no will do, does your post include you?
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Simple question without a 3 paragraph reply, a yes or no will do, does your post include you?'"
Just read the full thread for the answer it's pretty obvious.
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| I can't remember who said it but the quote applies here.
The day a coach starts listening to fans is the day be becomes one of them.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I can't remember who said it but the quote applies here.
The day a coach starts listening to fans is the day be becomes one of them.'"
Wayne Bennett
'When you start listening to the fans you end up sitting with them' if I reacall.
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| I mentioned Cooke because I know a number of players át both Doncaster and Leigh who think he’s the best coach they’ve ever worked with and some of them have worked with some highly regarded coaches. The biggest ćompliments are that he is genuinely invested in the players, really wants to help them and has the communication and man management skills to do so.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I mentioned Cooke because I know a number of players át both Doncaster and Leigh who think he’s the best coach they’ve ever worked with and some of them have worked with some highly regarded coaches. The biggest ćompliments are that he is genuinely invested in the players, really wants to help them and [uhas the communication and man management skills to do so[/u.'"
That is good to hear and quite contrary to the view I formed of him when he was with us.
Whilst playing at Wakey I remember him being very vocal on the field. I remember one instance where he was having a go at Luke George for his positional play. What Cooke said to him may or may not have been very smart, however the tone and the words he used to deliver it didn't inspire me, if I'd been Luke George at the time I'd probably felt like belting him.
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| Luke George now theres a name from the past! What ever happened to him ?
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Luke George now theres a name from the past! What ever happened to him ?'"
Didn't he go to Australia a few years ago?
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Didn't he go to Australia a few years ago?'"
He played for Northern Pride, not sure what he is doing now though.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"He played for Northern Pride, not sure what he is doing now though.'"
Still there I believe and working as a personal trainer.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Luke George now theres a name from the past! What ever happened to him ?'"
Probably in Pantomime on a more professional basis now.
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