Isn't this the time of the season to give youth it's chance, instead of the same old same old. Expected more today.

don't think its owt to do with pride, physically they are reaching the end of the season and are now starting to wind down mentally

Think cas will be coming to play us 1 pt ahead of us and we will then have to suffer the pee taking of their fans when they beat us and finish 3 pts above us.

It definitely looked like the majority of the players were giving 85% , so maybe some truth in the 15% pay cut rumour.

Some of the play today was embarrassing and way things are going we will end up having lost 7 on the trot, not the best way to go into the off season and boost season ticket sales

Agar needs to grow a pair and tell these guys that they are playing for wages not club rugby for a free pint and a packet of crisps. Bloody diabolical today, one of the worst games of RL I have seen in a long time. As the great Jim Royal would say "Pride my Arse"

I've often heard it quoted that the players are happy at the club and with Agar, is this because they'll get picked for the next game regardless of performances.

the first half right from awful letting ball bounce over line we was very lack lusture mathers certainly wasn't fit and I agree with other comments danny washbrook is cruising now he certainly offers nothing in attack, 2nd half we briefly tried but saints never got out of second gear tbh, was really disappointed today

I always feel a little uneasy when players like the coach. It gives me the impression they get an easy ride. Players should respect the coach and based on some of their performances I wouldn't say the players respect agar

You mean like Goulding, Kay, Lyne...

Lyne had plenty of chances. Goulding 10 mins today and about 30 last week. Kay played ok last two games. But there are more, Wildie, Cowling, Maskill and Anakin. How good do you know these players are going to be, if you don't pitch them in against a good team. We had nothing to lose, would rather see Wake go down with academy products playing, instead of the wind down performance today from some players.

100% mate. The only player he's ever been "ruthless" with is Cowling who's had the luxury of two games to prove himself. He gives players 10 mins to prove themselves from the bench then discards them when they don't perform miracles. Goulding should have been given at least a half today, but no 10 mins yet again.
He messed Hull up now he's doing same here. There's too much at stake next season to let this clown carry on hopefully the Catalan rumour is true and we don't dig our heels in this time.

I agree. I saw plenty of pride just too many handling errors put us under pressure.
Knocked the ball on twice over their line and Kay was brought back when clear.
Coulda shoulda not good enough but not the same as playing without pride.

He can't win! If he picked all of them then all that would happen is he would get slated on here, we'd probably get thrashed and there would no doubt be another made up rumour as to why the regulars didn't bloody play!!!

The point i'm trying to make, is that the last 3 games are a perfect opportunity to see what the young home grown players have to offer. Nothing to play for but let's experiment a bit.

I'm sick of hearing the "There's a great team atmosphere here" crap. Well bloody good for you. I'm glad I'm paying out hundreds of pounds every year for your boys club to have a great time. Shame you can't translate the atmosphere into anything resembling professional Rugby League Football. Agar looks and sounds about as inspiring as the film on a cooling bowl of custard and has failed totally to sort any of the poblems that ail us. His choices in every area of his role are virtually all wrong. The team looks disorganised and like they have no belief on what they have been coached or told to do.
Massive shake up needed in the close season. Glover et al need to look hard at the money we have available and make hard decisions on coach and player ins and outs. Doing nothing is not an option. We must change all we can afford to change. The coach and 6 players in that side must go. I think most of us could name them with near agreement. Gotta be done

Which six would you let go Charlie?

so who would replace the clown, hope its not who i have heard today

Spill the beans Bazzo.

Another load of rubbish today - schoolboy mistakes and clueless. Where is the fight/pride Agar? I have just forked out for another season ticket. Remind the players that the fans pay for and deserve better than this

proper breathing down your necks now when we beat Salford next game and you loose we will be a point better than you and the week after when we beat you we will be 3 points better than you and even though we had a shocking season still better team than Wake.

not long to go, think about it

Let Fev keep him.

Get Harrison in I think he could do a job again in super league.

You've got a better coach in Powell than us that's for sure. If you still had Millward

Please don't mention Millward I only just got over the nightmares on a night we would be stuck on 6 points going no where

on another way looking at things if we had Powell all season we would be top 5 on his results up to now but I can only dream of been a top club

It's looking like a relegation scrap next year. Salford and Cas will both be better teams next year. We won't be, although I do like to think that the performances would have been better had we been playing for the play-offs.

The only analogy I can think of is who puts in a good shift on a Friday afternoon? The players are winding down now. Justin Poore is clearly dreaming of going back to Australia, tweeting pictures of "paradise" and only four weeks to go, and the players tweeting pictures last night of a night out. Don't begrudge them it, but it looked like they were winding down, which is a good argument for having relegation back. Too many dead rubbers now.

Well they'd better not be too wound down on 8th September. The only thing that matters to me now is that we beat Cas and finish above them. I will find it very hard to justify shelling out good money to watch a team that can't get themselves up for that match.