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| Quote ="vastman"I fear another heavy defeat. I'm an optimist and have seen weak and unfancied Trinity teams do well and cause upsets so it's possible. However it's the sheers lack of experience in this team that scares me. Take out Morrison, Korki and Hendo out and there isn't a player in that side that's played more than one full SL season, most far less.
Bradford may not be the team they were but if they are in the mood and we are not they should rip that team to bits. Good luck lads
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I would add Tommy Lee to the list of experienced players.
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"can Harvey kick goal?'"
I seem to remember Kear saying he could at the fans forum.
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| Quote ="The Clan"27 Kieran Hyde
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I've gone for Hyde at fullback, I've done this for a few reasons the main ones being:
Josh Vievers has done nothing wrong but he ought to have a break, I know it's only 3 SL games but including the pre season games he's played a lot of senior rugby for a young kid. He needs a week off to physically and mentally regenerate. There's also something going on in the background with his family and if his mind may not be fully focused. He needs to be managed well, an arm round his shoulder and an explanation as to why.
Kieran Hyde has one poor game followed by one good game and he deserves a place in the team, I'm not sold on him being a stand off yet but he can operate as a third half back from the No1 jersey and thats where I see his value.
I've also gone for Griffin on the wing, Bradford have two attacking wingmen in Raynor and Ainscough, and we can't afford to be defensively vulnerable.'"
Great point about Vievers TC...
I dont know if you noticed in the Salford game, but JV didnt retun the ball as much as usual from kicks in play...he passed it on quite a few times...dont know if its a tactic or if hes carrying an injury...
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| Quote ="The Clan"27 Kieran Hyde
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I've gone for Hyde at fullback, I've done this for a few reasons the main ones being:
Josh Vievers has done nothing wrong but he ought to have a break, I know it's only 3 SL games but including the pre season games he's played a lot of senior rugby for a young kid. He needs a week off to physically and mentally regenerate. There's also something going on in the background with his family and if his mind may not be fully focused. He needs to be managed well, an arm round his shoulder and an explanation as to why.
Kieran Hyde has one poor game followed by one good game and he deserves a place in the team, I'm not sold on him being a stand off yet but he can operate as a third half back from the No1 jersey and thats where I see his value.
I've also gone for Griffin on the wing, Bradford have two attacking wingmen in Raynor and Ainscough, and we can't afford to be defensively vulnerable.'"
If the rumours are right then Dean won't play so Penny will have to take his place. As for Hyde i'm sure he'll be itching to play against his former team so getting him in somewhere might not be a bad thing. Whether its at fullback depends on Vievers' state of mind. Think you'll see Morrison in the second row and Howarth at lock though.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"If the rumours are right then Dean won't play so Penny will have to take his place. As for Hyde i'm sure he'll be itching to play against his former team so getting him in somewhere might not be a bad thing. Whether its at fullback depends on Vievers' state of mind. Think you'll see Morrison in the second row and Howarth at lock though.'"
I hope its not the same itch Smith had to play against his former team.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I hope its not the same itch Smith had to play against his former team.'"
True but just think how bad he'd have been playing against anyone else!
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| Bradford's 19
Addy, Ainscough, Ah Van, Bateman, Diskin, Elima, Hargreaves, Herbert, Kearney, Kopczak, Lynch, Olbison, Platt, Raynor, Royston, Scruton, Sibbit, Sykes, Whitehead.
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Ah Van
Raynor
Kearney
Herbert
Lynch
Diskin
Hargreaves
Whitehead
Olbison
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Scruton
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with a possible debut given to Bateman, who's another of our up and coming 2nd row.
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| I was led to believe the Hyde was subject to a finess test. On the assumption he is fit and Dean isn't i'd go :
Vievers
Penny
Griffin
Murphy
George
Harvey
Hyde
Korkidas
Rinaldi
Johnson
Mariano
Morrison
Henderson
Howarth
Lee
Gledhill
Amor
Bit harsh on Davey maybe but looked a bit too lightweight when then pitch was heavy last week. Will come into his own on firmer grounds. Henderson to start to help keep it tight early on, Lee to revert to replacement hooker which is his best position IMHO.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I would add Tommy Lee to the list of experienced players.'"
Relatively I'd say. I might be wrong but I always thought of him as a bit of a fringe players at Hull?
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Amor
Harvey
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Assuming Vievers could do with a week off.
A bit lightweight on the bench and would probably mean Lee doing a stint at loose with Harvey going into halfback but gives us a bit more strength in the backs with Dean missing.
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| Quote ="vastman"Relatively I'd say. I might be wrong but I always thought of him as a bit of a fringe players at Hull?'"
TBH i did.
But 2007 - 17 apps
2008 - 20 apps
2009 - 22 apps
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| Clan if you saw Hyde play at full back last season then you would never want to see him there again. Like the look of Hyde at scrum half. Vivers is a big boy now 21 years old, been full time for years, he should be able to play more than three in a row.
I went to Bradford to see them play Wigan a couple of weeks ago, their pack is big strong and mobile, not sure how we will counter that. Then again the French were on the big side. My head says we will do well to hold them to 40.
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| Thank god smith not in. I will buy him a ticket to new zealend !!
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| I bet if we organised 2 whip-rounds asking people to contribute a quid for a one-way ticket to New Zealand you'd get your ticket before Smith got his.
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| I will put 50 in to get rid of the fat idle talentless good for nothing but I will not contribute anything for Smith.
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| Quote ="inside man"I will put 50 in to get rid of the fat idle talentless good for nothing but I will not contribute anything for Smith.'"
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| Quote ="inside man"I will put 50 in to get rid of the fat idle talentless good for nothing but I will not contribute anything for Smith.'"
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| On the website there is an article about the u20's game tomorrow it states that Harvey will play tomorrow so i doubt he will be playing sunday as well so it looks as if it will be Hyde and Lee in the halves.
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| Didn't Gledhill play in both last week?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Thank god smith not in. I will buy him a ticket to new zealend !!'"
How about you contribute it towards the sponsorship instead? You know something that help's the club out, instead of a pointless comment.
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| Quote ="PHe"Didn't Gledhill play in both last week?'"
Only because King went down injured on the morning of the game, it wasn't planned that way.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Thank god smith not in. =#FF0000I will buy him a ticket to new zealend !!'"
I have to ask, where the hell is New Zealend????
Geography, a subject where your knowledge is even worse than Rugby League.
Who is going to be the victim of your get out of the club campaign by the end of Sunday???
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| Smith was poor last week he is what we have got so lets get behind him. its not easy for a halfback to slot into a team and make a diference straight away. give him a few more games then start to rate him geting on his back after one game wont help him settle.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"On the website there is an article about the u20's game tomorrow it states that Harvey will play tomorrow so i doubt he will be playing sunday as well so it looks as if it will be Hyde and Lee in the halves.'"
I bet Harvey is so pleased he came over to Wakefield to gain some invaluable first team experience.
I mean he could just have stayed at Warrington and played in the U20s.
If Harvey doesnt take the stand off role on Sunday for the first team,it will show what a clot JK is.
What was the point of loaning him.
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