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| There was an incident outside the ground with a small bunch of young Wakey teenagers about between 14 & 16 years old but what i saw alarmed me more when about 15 to 20 Wire's fans came running off the bus to start confronting these young Dickheads in which could have made the situation a lot worse if other Wakey fans would have seen this happening god knows what might have happened, We are a family sport & proud of it & hopefully this will be investigated by the club
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| Unbelievable - Wire fans complaining about supporters from other teams . They are the world's worst - I know, I know every city has them (usually young boys who think they are men) - but the worst place has to be Warrington - apologies to the vast majority of fans but you do seem to have more than your fair share and I don't know why.
Congratulations Wakey - It's the Kear factor
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| i dont think segregation would aid the situation outside , more policing is the obvious answer.
the vast majority of wakey fans think this behaviour is unacceptable and cringe when chavies start playing up.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i dont think segregation would aid the situation outside , more policing is the obvious answer.
the vast majority of wakey fans think this behaviour is unacceptable and cringe when chavies start playing up.'"
if anything segregation creates even more of an 'us and them' situation which is counter productive
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Can anybody explain why a small minority of your fans like to over to the away stand intent on causing trouble.
Not only that throwing objects at the fans coach whilst it's going through the town centre.'"
Yet by the same miraculous tone that so many away fans claim, it was nowt to do with your own fans. Don't you just love the blinkered nature of some. Yes we have a few but I bet we have a few less than you.
People in glass houses and all that...trot along.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Do you not think some kind of segregation needs to be arranged at your place though
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No. Segregation would be impossible to monitor and control at Belle Vue and as pointed out by other posters in this thread, it would have a more "us v them" attitude and may make it more threatening and bring more possibility of something actually kicking off. My fundamental proof of segregation not always being a good thing is whenever we go to the KC Stadium and everytime we encounter a bunch of herberts in the corner nearest the away section. Also Latchford, there isn't really that much segregation at your ground neither.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"TBF these young lads are okay and support the team well, even if the are a pain at times,. They were being encouraged by older fans who should know better last night.
Outside the ground, well i just don't know.'"
im not dissin but your talking out ya booty
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"im not dissin but your talking out ya booty'"
Want to explain why Bigal is talking out of his a*** ,
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"im not dissin but your talking out ya booty'"
Ok thanks for adding to the debate.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Want to explain why Bigal is talking out of his a***
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Because he is condoning the actions of a few wakefield thugs that were throwing missiles at the coach
making young kids cry
making kids say i dont want to come here again
its pathetic
you wonder why you cant fill your ground
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"Because he is condoning the actions of a few wakefield thugs that were throwing missiles at the coach
making young kids cry
making kids say i dont want to come here again
its pathetic
you wonder why you cant fill your ground'"
At no point have i done this, i said the trouble inside the ground, and thats backed up by Wire fans on your forum who i stood with.
No idea what happened outside or who it involved.
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"Because he is condoning the actions of a few wakefield thugs that were throwing missiles at the coach
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I suggest you read his post again and for a second time, just to make sure it sinks in, he says the young lads [iINSIDE[/i are a pain inside the ground although they do support our team, he then says "Outside the ground, well i just don't know" therefore he didnt know what happened outside the ground, thus cannot condone anything that happened outside the ground.
If what you say is true re behaviour outside the ground then I dont want to see them at our ground again, little scrouts.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"I suggest you read his post again and for a second time, just to make sure it sinks in, he says the young lads [iINSIDE[/i are a pain inside the ground although they do support our team, he then says "Outside the ground, well i just don't know" therefore he didnt know what happened outside the ground, thus cannot condone anything that happened outside the ground.
If what you say is true re behaviour outside the ground then I dont want to see them at our ground again, little scrouts.'"
Thanks for clearing that up, i thought thats what i said
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"im not dissin but your talking out ya booty'"
Big Al does not talk out of is not often eny way
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| Mountains and molehills, this thread.
All it was, was young men, filled with a combination of testosterone and alcohol that took a bit of banter too far.
I'm sure everyone involved woke up this morning hungover and feeling perhaps a tad regretful that they acted a bit silly in public.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Mountains and molehills, this thread.
All it was, was young men, filled with a combinationed of testosterone and alcohol that took a bit of banter too far.
I'm sure everyone involved woked up this morning hungover and feeling perhaps a tad regretful that they acted a bit silly in public.'"
Exactly.
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| there was several young ones looked about 14 or 15 drinking lager on the upper level of the doncaster rd end they were plastic carlsberg bottles so they were obviously bought in the ground i noticed at half time as i walked round but they seem well behaved dont know if these are who people are talking about.
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| Quote ="desmond decker"there was several young ones looked about 14 or 15 drinking lager on the upper level of the doncaster rd end they were plastic carlsberg bottles so they were obviously bought in the ground i noticed at half time as i walked round but they seem well behaved dont know if these are who people are talking about.'"
Don't know and it would be unfair to assume its the same lads, i'll will say it again they are not bad lads (stood in front of me) but they just need to calm it a little and concentrate on supporting our team.
One or two of them post on here so i hope they get the message and understand there actions on the terrace affect all fans.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Do you not think some kind of segregation needs to be arranged at your place though
Inside the ground yes it was 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other, outside the ground there were quite a large group of fans about 20-25 waiting for the coach at a set of traffic lights nera the town centre.
I was in the car coming from Sugar Lane and the coach incident happened to my right, just by coincidence the lights changed to red forcing the coach to stop and it went on from there.
There was also trouble outside a pub near elm tree road i think, like i said i went to sugar lane so i don't know which pub it was.
As i have said it was a small minority mostly young fans but it's the first time i have experienced any trouble at your ground.'"
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| I was there when the outside the ground incident was happening & it was [uNOT [/uthe lads Bigal was referring to who was coursing trouble with the Wire's fans on the coach
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| Quote ="acko"I was there when the outside the ground incident was happening & it was [uNOT [/uthe lads Bigal was referring to who was coursing trouble with the Wire's fans on the coach'"
Glad to hear it that, not the trouble bit you understand but the lads in the ground.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Do you not think some kind of segregation needs to be arranged at your place though
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No. It will be a very sad day if/when we have segregation at Rugby League games. I much prefer to be able to stand with opposition fans and have a laugh and joke rather than been in seperate stands making crude hand gestures at each other. The better option is to ban/remove those who cannot handle mixing with opposition fans as it is they who have the problem not the rest of us.
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| Quote ="J.T"No. It will be a very sad day if/when we have segregation at Rugby League games. I much prefer to be able to stand with opposition fans and have a laugh and joke rather than been in seperate stands making crude hand gestures at each other. The better option is to ban/remove those who cannot handle mixing with opposition fans as it is they who have the problem not the rest of us.'"
Indeed. As said before, segregation adds to 'us' and 'them', and it also allows for bravehearts to try to look hard in front of their boozed up mates with empty threats and hand gestures. Funny how they aren't so quick to do so when the opposition fans are stood a few yards away from them.
The only downside is that it perhaps kills a bit of the atmosphere, as so many people are spread out and migled amongst each other, it makes it hard for that vocal element of support that some supporters pride themselves upon.
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| Forgive the intrusion but my experience of problems outside of grounds has generally been :-
1. Young people who have not been to the game and just want to cause trouble
2. Alcohol drunk outside of the ground by non supporters
3. The fact that the Police could take a leaf out of Huddersfield's book who set all the traffic lights to green to allow the away coaches to get straight through without stopping and making them a target
This is often the case where there have been problems on Preston Road at Rovers games
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| Quote ="desmond decker"there was several young ones looked about 14 or 15 drinking lager on the upper level of the doncaster rd end they were plastic carlsberg bottles so they were obviously bought in the ground i noticed at half time as i walked round but they seem well behaved dont know if these are who people are talking about.'"
SORRY i dont think i made my point clear they were 14 or 15 yrs old not that many people but they were drinking alcohol
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