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| Quote ="chapster"ok a man in a pub told me this....
basically the club has a creationist stance on the world and all its many facets, and mr kear asks all players to conform to this ethic, on the bus back from london mr brough and mr sculthorpe made certain comments supporting the big bang theory, supported by some sound reasoning and physical evidence.
a heated debate ensued, in a calm ethical intellectual forum , a bit like on here, but mr brough and mr sculthoprpe stood firm basically believing in the six day theory.
Mr Kear then asked them to retract there comments, or to not play, (or rest) on the seventh day as per creationalist theory, the 2 refused and therefore were asked to rest on the seventh day.
religious debate move on people nothing to read here'"
Henderson clearly supports the evolution theory, given that he represents one of the links. Maybe JK was sticking up for him (although you have the two Danny's swapping from big bang to six day - maybe that's why there was confusion. They are better placed than most to discuss evolution, as they spent some years in Cas).
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| i know what happend and why they have been suspended but am i going to get into truble for telling
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| and i got the theories the wrong way round in first para!!!!
goes to show dont listen to a random man in a pub spouting rumours!
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| There are no scandals (shock horror) at the minute from my own club and Im really, really bored, please someone?
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| Quote ="cats mad"i know what happend and why they have been suspended but am i going to get into truble for telling
and its def right what i know'"
oh yes and i know pusstcats dolls phone numbers
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| I'm in Florida so have no idea whats going on.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Henderson clearly supports the evolution theory, given that he represents one of the links. Maybe JK was sticking up for him (although you have the two Danny's swapping from big bang to six day - maybe that's why there was confusion. They are better placed than most to discuss evolution, as they spent some years in Cas).'"
the joys of a proof reader!!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I can only make guesses as to what might have happened, but if it was connected with what happened on the rugby field, good on them. I would rather see players bicker about performances, and thus show they care, than simply mooch home indifferently, a la 2006 until JK turned up. Broughy and Scully have played together for a few years now, so they know each other pretty well.
If it was nothing to do with rugby, it's nothing to do with this forum.'"
Cannot agree with this at all. They are players for our club, and like it or not their actions reflect on the club and even the City as a whole. We pay week in and week out to watch the product they provide, and we deserve to be able to make an informed choice if they are the type of people we want to contribute financially towards.
When shopping at a hight profile store, the customer often has a chance to check out the store's ethical policy and what they stand for. We deserve to be given the choice here IMO, if the club deems any offence severe enough for disciplinary action.
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| Quote ="chapster"Quote ="cats mad"i know what happend and why they have been suspended but am i going to get into truble for telling
and its def right what i know'"
oh yes and i know pusstcats dolls phone numbers'" '"
lol so you dont believe me then,the fact that i was at the gym yesterday morning when all the team was and i was in sauna with j rooney and mr brough partner. they where talking about what happenend.this is why i know.if you look on my post tor team for sunday i say brad is a doubt for sun because i heard him tell latu he dont know whats wrong with it and will be going for a scan the knee was hurting him before the cup game and he had a injection which did solve it untill he hurt it again in training.
so mr chapster can i have them phone numbers
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| Well if you wanted to PM me details I wouldn't say no....
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| Quote ="Haywire"When shopping at a hight profile store, the customer often has a chance to check out the store's ethical policy and what they stand for. We deserve to be given the choice here IMO, if the club deems any offence severe enough for disciplinary action.'"
Thanks for that. The next time I pop into Sainsbury's, I'll be sure to ask the manager to show me the disciplinary record of all the staff on duty so that I can make an informed choice of whether to continue shopping there or take my custom to Asda/Morrisons.... FFS
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| Quote ="cats mad"so mr chapster can i have them phone numbers'"
Give him the numbers for God sake - if he's reduced to hanging around the bloke's sauna for his kicks, he needs them more than you
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Give him the numbers for God sake - if he's reduced to hanging around the bloke's sauna for his kicks, he needs them more than you'"
its mixed didnt the fact that mr brough partner was in there give it away
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No ASDA? Whats that all about?
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Again, thanks for the links, but they really do have bugger all to do with proving the case in point. The club has rules regarding internal discpline, the rules have in this case been broken, and appropriate action taken. What more do you want? You won't be paying to watch either of the culprits at the weekend, so your ethical conscience is clear. Likewise, once they've served their punishment, you can watch them again and your ethical conscience can remain clear. Problem solved!
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Again, thanks for the links, but they really do have bugger all to do with proving the case in point. The club has rules regarding internal discpline, the rules have in this case been broken, and appropriate action taken. What more do you want? You won't be paying to watch either of the culprits at the weekend, so your ethical conscience is clear. Likewise, once they've served their punishment, you can watch them again and your ethical conscience can remain clear. Problem solved!
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Again, thanks for the links, but they really do have bugger all to do with proving the case in point. The club has rules regarding internal discpline, the rules have in this case been broken, and appropriate action taken. What more do you want? You won't be paying to watch either of the culprits at the weekend, so your ethical conscience is clear. Likewise, once they've served their punishment, you can watch them again and your ethical conscience can remain clear. Problem solved!'"
They have everything to do with the point. You are not interested in what they have done? You dont think the fans have a right to know to make an informed choice? Exagerate to make a point, a little lad may want SCULTHORPE 8 on the back of his shirt, his dad might not want it depending on what they have done- I think its a fair enough request to know what these guys have been disciplinned for. They are roll models and kids (and adults) up and down the County look to them for inspiration.
I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?
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| Quote ="Haywire"They have everything to do with the point. You are not interested in what they have done? You dont think the fans have a right to know to make an informed choice? Exagerate to make a point, a little lad may want SCULTHORPE 8 on the back of his shirt - I think its a fair enough request to know what these guys have been disciplinned for. They are roll models and kids (and adults) up and down the County look to them for inspiration.
I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?'"
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| Quote ="Haywire"I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?'"
That is precisely the point - why not do that? I don't know why they chose to go public with a statement, but if the incident was not a matter for public concern, then it was clearly a mistake, IMO. A well-meaning one, perhaps, but a mistake nonetheless.
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| Quote ="cats mad"its mixed didnt the fact that mr brough partner was in there give it away'"
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"That is precisely the point - why not do that? I don't know why they chose to go public with a statement, but if the incident was not a matter for public concern, then it was clearly a mistake, IMO. A well-meaning one, perhaps, but a mistake nonetheless.'"
OK, so we agree on the point - if its a petty matter it should be kept in house and dealt with inernally so the Club appear to have made an error of judgement. But at this stage we don't know if it is a petty matter (or at least I dont, you may know the whole story but only know what's been officially released) if it isn't a petty matter and is something more sinister do you beleive the fans should told the specifics or not?
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| Quote ="chapster"
scully??'"
Sorry Chapster but Scully does a lot to bring awareness about Diabetes to the kids and is an inspiration to a lot of people affected youg and old in reaching their own goals,not sure if you were joking but hey cut the lad some slack it's all speculation at the mo'
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Disagree with you there. A breach of club discipline has to do with the club, not us. As PB and TRB have stated, it should have been dealt with internally and kept that way, unless it's something that warrants public comment, which doesn't seem to be the case. The statement has caused more damage than good, even if it was made with the right intentions.'" Have you ever heard the saying the customer is always right, We the fans are the customers of the club we pay to watch them play whether by paying at the gate or by purchasing a season ticket.
When we turn up for a game we want to see the best team possible play thats what we pay for, Now then we find that two of our senior players have breached club policy and have been banned from the club for a week,
So who is beeing punished the fans who pay there wages or even ther team mates who most probably will have to play with a weakened team facing yet what could be another defeat. So who is losing out, are the players having there wages docked i doubt it.Would it not be better for the Club to fine the players say a weeks wages and donate that money to a much needed charity, Then it is us the fans who dont end up being penalised.
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| Quote ="Haywire"OK, so we agree on the point - if its a petty matter it should be kept in house and dealt with inernally so the Club appear to have made an error of judgement. But at this stage we don't know if it is a petty matter (or at least I dont, you may know the whole story but only know what's been officially released) if it isn't a petty matter and is something more sinister do you beleive the fans should told the specifics or not?'"
If it is more sinister you'll doubtless be told the specifics because it'll be in the public domain and reported by the press.
In most cases where such things have happened in the past, the press has got to the story first and the club concerned has tried to keep things under wraps. This is clearly not the case here.
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| Quote ="CHESHIRE CAT 57"Have you ever heard the saying the customer is always right, We the fans are the customers of the club we pay to watch them play whether by paying at the gate or by purchasing a season ticket.
When we turn up for a game we want to see the best team possible play thats what we pay for, Now then we find that two of our senior players have breached club policy and have been banned from the club for a week,
So who is beeing punished the fans who pay there wages or even ther team mates who most probably will have to play with a weakened team facing yet what could be another defeat. So who is losing out, are the players having there wages docked i doubt it.Would it not be better for the Club to fine the players say a weeks wages and donate that money to a much needed charity, Then it is us the fans who dont end up being penalised.'"
I would have thought and hoped that any suspension would also carry at least a partial loss of wages.
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