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| Quote ="PopTart"Are you going Dunk?
Are you going to count them in for us so we know if Atoni, Lino and Proctor made it back on time?
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Remember that clip of Kevin Keegan saying “he would love it!” if they (Newcastle Utd) got a result against Man Utd back in the day.
I heard that when I read your post.
Mate, just relax. It is what it is.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You forget the asset we now have to go with that debt.'" assets mean nothing and can easily be taken away if you don't pay for them.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"assets mean nothing and can easily be taken away if you don't pay for them.'"
As someone who has a career in and around Asset Management… in private and state owned companies…I do rather disagree with your assessment, with the benefit of some familiarity and volition.
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| Quote ="Spookisback"As someone who has a career in and around Asset Management… in private and state owned companies…I do rather disagree with your assessment, with the benefit of some familiarity and volition.'"
Don't companies go bankrupt in your world
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Don't companies go bankrupt in your world'"
Not if they manage their assets.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"assets mean nothing and can easily be taken away if you don't pay for them.'"
I'd be more worried being a Salford fan tbh....
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Quote ="BackSeatCoach"PT. Please. Did you think that they would actually say that Proctor was a bad influence on the team?
They have to keep up appearances. Truth is Proctor is turning out to be a PR nightmare. He really is.
What does leadership look like to you? 15 minute stints then doubled over shattered?
Travel Overseas when not playing.
When injured, stand on the sideline playing with your phone instead of taking an interest in the team?
Indefensible.'"
https://www.totalrl.com/kevin-proctor-f ... ue-safety/
Bigger question in the article asked should not have been will he stay another year it should have been will Trinity or any other club want to sign an ‘over-paid over the hill has been’ next season?
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Quote ="BackSeatCoach"PT. Please. Did you think that they would actually say that Proctor was a bad influence on the team?
They have to keep up appearances. Truth is Proctor is turning out to be a PR nightmare. He really is.
What does leadership look like to you? 15 minute stints then doubled over shattered?
Travel Overseas when not playing.
When injured, stand on the sideline playing with your phone instead of taking an interest in the team?
Indefensible.'"
https://www.totalrl.com/kevin-proctor-f ... ue-safety/
Bigger question in the article asked should not have been will he stay another year it should have been will Trinity or any other club want to sign an ‘over-paid over the hill has been’ next season?
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"PT. Please. Did you think that they would actually say that Proctor was a bad influence on the team?
They have to keep up appearances. Truth is Proctor is turning out to be a PR nightmare. He really is.
What does leadership look like to you? 15 minute stints then doubled over shattered?
Travel Overseas when not playing.
When injured, stand on the sideline playing with your phone instead of taking an interest in the team?
Indefensible.'"
Proctor is stinking the place out, sooner he leaves the better.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I thought exactly the same which is why I didn’t respond to the initial post. In fact if it’s addressed to the directors it’s better to write a letter addressed direct to them or the club. I’m not a yes man and have my own opinions but these days if you don’t agree you tend to get ostracised (not on here but in general in social media).
The simple fact is mistakes have been made in a few areas but the club haven’t shied away from this. Fans are asking why? But sometimes mistakes are simply made. If these mistakes can be patched remains to be seen.
The club/coach have already said they accept things aren’t where they want it to be yet fans still are asking the club to explain. That’s rubbish and I would rather the club focus completely on how they can address it moving forwards.
I’m sure the poster has the best intentions and it’s wholehearted so I won’t criticise. I’ve just seen too many of these posts daily on various outlets. The focus needs to be on supporting the club turning things around not continually beating the club which are currently curled up in a ball in the feral position.'"
Hear hear. Very well said
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| Have either of you written a letter ?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Have either of you written a letter ?'"
I wrote one in about 1992.
It was to a girl in France.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I wrote one in about 1992.
It was to a girl in France.'"
Was that to send over a list of pros and cons in respect of how things should progress.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Was that to send over a list of pros and cons in respect of how things should progress.'"
I met her on a ski holiday but it only lasted a couple of letters.
She blamed Carter !!
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| Quote ="PopTart"You forget the asset we now have to go with that debt.'" as far as I see it the ground and the land are the assets the new stand and the rest are buildings on the assett so we are in debt to the council over 3 million which as to be paid back and will be extremely difficult to do if we go down but don't let that detract from your obsession of defending Carter and the club.
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| I have yet to see the ones who demonstrate pure hatred towards a certain individual offer anything concrete as to a way forward. They seem to revel in an almost orgasmic state at the opportunity presented to them to satisfy long held grudges and grievances .
As many more rational people have said mistakes have been made, but that happens.
Now is the time to get behind the club and endeavour to work out a way forward.
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Now is the time to get behind the club and endeavour to work out a way forward.'"
That is a fair enough thing to suggest and I am sure most supporters are fair minded enough to agree. However I don't see any evidence that this present BOD know how to get the club out of this downward spiral. I think player swaps like Hall for Dagger shows to me they haven't got a clue.
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I could be wrong - but i dont think from memory companies can go bankrupt,they can become insolvent,bankruptcy is for Individuals.
Either way it wouldnt surprise me in the least if the company (Spirit of 1873 ltd) becomes insolvent after our departure from super league.The new stand and associated debt/repayments i fear will actually become the millstone around our neck.
The bit i cant quite fathom and in fairness is the only bit of hope i have remaining with regards the financial stability when we are relegated is - surely the board know the above, so why allow this predicament to unfold,unless they have a solution/or there is a plan B.
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| Quote ="First25"I have yet to see the ones who demonstrate pure hatred towards a certain individual offer anything concrete as to a way forward. They seem to revel in an almost orgasmic state at the opportunity presented to them to satisfy long held grudges and grievances .
As many more rational people have said mistakes have been made, but that happens.
Now is the time to get behind the club and endeavour to work out a way forward.'" the current board including the ceo are the present custodians of the club and therefore it is up to them to find a way forward and at the present time they are making a cows backside of it, il say again we are over 4 million in debt, we don't seem to have a pot to pee in, we have the worst squad in our super league history, the product on the field Is poor and we can't afford to change things, there's a good chance we will go down and then we are up the creek.
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| Quote ="First25"I have yet to see the ones who demonstrate pure hatred towards a certain individual offer anything concrete as to a way forward. They seem to revel in an almost orgasmic state at the opportunity presented to them to satisfy long held grudges and grievances .
As many more rational people have said mistakes have been made, but that happens.
Now is the time to get behind the club and endeavour to work out a way forward.'"
Some have
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"as far as I see it the ground and the land are the assets the new stand and the rest are buildings on the assett so we are in debt to the council over 3 million which as to be paid back and will be extremely difficult to do if we go down but don't let that detract from your obsession of defending Carter and the club.'"
Lol. You are funny Mopsey. You realise you are showing obsessive signs too?
Anyway, the point of the stadium asset is to
1) Keep us in, or a chance of returning, to Super League.....which drives higher income for the rugby side
2) generate income outside the rugby side.
In all mortgages, the point is to buy an expensive asset that will either make money through inflation of land or building prices, or generate income in excess of its cost over time, that you couldn't buy in one go and would lose the opportunity of the income without it.
I've no crystal ball to say it will all work, but it makes sense to me.
Added bonus of nice place for me to sit and watch rugby.
I don't think it's just Carter's idea.
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| Quote ="First25"I have yet to see the ones who demonstrate pure hatred towards a certain individual offer anything concrete as to a way forward. They seem to revel in an almost orgasmic state at the opportunity presented to them to satisfy long held grudges and grievances .
As many more rational people have said mistakes have been made, but that happens.
Now is the time to get behind the club and endeavour to work out a way forward.'"
Hear bloody hear!!! Sick of the carping without one single, sensible concrete idea of their own and also without act knowing anything much about what is going on or has gone on behind the scenes. I've questions and criticisms but the level of paddy throwing by some is mind blowing
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| It shouldn’t be the fans jobs to find the solutions.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I wrote one in about 1992.
It was to a girl in France.'"
Did she look like Norah Batty, but you thought she was a dead ringer for Bridget Bardot?
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