Mash completely quashed anything bad about this. He requested permission to go while not in training and Mash agreed.
Some people are desperate to uncover some secret issue but there is nothing there.

As you say Bojo, it's hardly a long way and he got chance to spend time with his family. Seems like a good decision to me.
Just like anyone else can when not at work.

We may not agree on much but keep up the good work slapping down these malicious rumours. Things are not perfect at the club, what club ever is, but it’s ok.

We just need a win and most will go away, but for now it’s a battle for the sane amongst us to keep battling.

We need more than a win but it would make a change as would troubling the scoreboard.
I would also question the sane part of your post because to accept the status quo could be described as insane.
You will not receive a Christmas card from the club suggesting things are not perfect which let’s be honest you don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to work that out in fact you could say it is elementary my dear Vastman.
I will stick with realism over blind acceptance but that key to the executive toilet in the new stand must be a draw (yes I made that up) or did I.

Well done PT A* for your efforts. I bet you feel such a sense of pride that the "Ego" approves.

The thing that really annoys me is my questions are perfectly legitimate questions. Questions that dive into why "things are not perfect at club". His words not mine.

I personally have never speculated or made things up. I'll defend the club wherever possible too. So I agree threads like this don't help. But people need to stop grouping ALL fans who have some discontent together, and dismissing them as whole. Cos people will just get fed up and walk away. Stop asking questions stop caring. Stop getting dismissed.

You'll be relieved to know I'll stop posting now. What's the point? The antagonist is given a free run. Is knowhere to be seen when challenged and then pops up elsewhere acting like the forum police. He's a utter coward.

This is the definition of a realist:

a person who accepts a situation as it is and is prepared to deal with it accordingly.
"I am a realist, with no time for your world of make believe"

Do you really think that's you?

Absolutely not. You should never stop questioning. I certainly won't.

But some people state facts (or I heard a rumour) that are just blatantly not true, and they should be called out.

Moving back towards Proctor. We need a huge game from him and our forwards tomorrow. It would be so good to see us dominate another set of forwards especially our rivals.

I agree.
In particular, whoever plays 13 needs to put a big hit on Westerman early. We let him run too much and we need to dominate him so his off loads are reduced. A lot of their attacking play comes through him.

We do. We also need Atoni to pull his finger out, for me he’s been the biggest disappointment of all. He’s been the epitome of that classic line ‘Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane” and it’s time for him to step it up.

Yes he certainly does need to show some aggression tomorrow. I would have him coming off the bench after 20 minutes. He’s not a starting prop imo so may go better off the bench.

We really need the pack to step up and get us into positions to score points.

Total disappointment from this guy for me , was expecting big things but unfortunately lights on but no one is home . I’d be delighted for him to prove me wrong starting with tomorrow night ,but I won’t hold my breath

I don’t want to write him off completely just yet but he needs to be one of the forwards leading the pack.

He’s been over here a while now and it’s starting to get warmer. We need to see more from him now.

I agree.....but I dare you to call him "Jane" to his face

Classic first SL season for an Aussie, they are usually pretty average until they adjust to our game which takes a season for the vast majority.

Adrian Vowles at Cas was a classic example. Very poor the 1st season but went on to win MOS and become a cult hero.

Correct, especially forwards.

Bill Tupou was a classic, terrible to start with, but there are loads tbh. Unless you are a top NRL player at his peak and thus can't afford to fail, however they don't play in SL anymore.

I can buy into that in some positions and to be honest I’m not sure what people were expecting from Proctor. He had always been a grafter rather than a line breaking eye catcher. I think he is doing exactly what he has always done…all be it at a diminishing level due to his age. He’s never been a line ruining strike edge forward.

What I cannot accept though is using the settling in period as an excuse for the displays Atoni has so far put in. He’s been terrible. I understand there can be a settling in period but thus far his heart does not look in it. He does lie minutes and simply trundles it in.

If ever there was a lad that needed this game tonight it is Atoni as if he cannot get up for this match with the importance of it then I don’t know what we do with him.

Agreed Jonh,plus we've no time for players 'to settle in'

I've had no probs with his effort in games. But like some others, i'm not sure if he's playing in a role that he's been brought here for? I think Crowther could do what he's done so far, let's see what he comes up with tonight, if selected of course.

Maybe being on telly will inspire them all.

I'd be scared to call him "Tarzan" tbh FIL.....

Rather than Mash trying to give a pre match Churchillian speech. They just need to sit in the changing room and listen to what Wilkin will be saying about them pre match. If that doesn't get them up for a scrap nothing will.

Do some of them actually care as long as they're getting paid?

Back to Proctor, If it wasn't for his daft hair you wouldn't know he was on the pitch. Over rated ,over paid, has been

Thought he was solid tonight. Few good runs and some busy tackling. No errors.

Can think of a number of experienced players who had far worse games starting with the captain.

Missed tackle leading to a try and pulling a heel gifting a penalty on 4th relieving pressure.