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| Quote ="phe13"But is the alleged approach to his agent or the club?'" not sure but I think he’ll be gone can’t blame him cos trinity are pathetic
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| Quote ="phe13"But is the alleged approach to his agent or the club?'"
Doesn't matter, he's free ro discuss teems with anyone.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Apparently Catalan have made an approach for Tom good luck to what ever decision he agrees'"
Would that be the same people who approached Miller who was totally going to Wigan. Or the Fifita who was unquestionably joining Catalan. Or the Batch who’d had enough and was joining Hudds. Or was it Lino who’d definitely had enough and was joining Catalan (bit of a pattern here).
Shall I carry on?
Of course it’s possible and I too wouldn’t blame the lad.
However this willingness to believe what the press (if you can call them that) is hilarious.
I’m sure all will be revealed but until it is it’s pure speculation and a reasonable guess but nobody on here knows the truth even if they claim they do.
The only odd thing is that I don’t see Tom as a south of France type player - I’d expect somewhere closer to home but best of luck to the lad.
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| The club had until the 01/05/2022 to make any agreements after that I believe all discussions will be between his agent and Catalan for example. The same will apply to the rest of our squad that are not resigned.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Doesn't matter, he's free ro discuss teems with anyone.'"
If they have approached his agent then it is for next year, approaching the club means for this season.
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| If he goes he goes ,we can’t break the bank for anyone especially when it’s quality forward power we are in desperate need of ,and so we may have to move on without him , won’t be the first time and certainly won’t be the last . If the rumours are true he’ll leave behind fantastic memories of his time with us and I’m sure will go with all our best wishes for the future .
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| Quote ="cosmicat"not sure but I think he’ll be gone can’t blame him cos trinity are pathetic'"
And who better than your good self to exemplify that adjective?
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| We all have to be honest he deserves a chance to join a club which gives him a chance to show his true talent. We have had season after season of struggles on the field and the opposition knew to target him because he and Fifita are our main strike players.
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| Out in a limb here… but here goes anyway…
I don’t think Bill Tupou will return to full action before his contract runs out and in the best interests of the club we have to find a way to let him and the club move on…
Tom Johnstone is out of contract and his value could be used to benefit now…
Catalans are reported to be interested… they have Kasiano and Dudson out of contact this year and both look like being available…
Johnstone swap for Kasiano and Dudson for the rest of the season would significantly bulk our forwards and give (along with Butler) some forward dominance to allow the halves to play…
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Out in a limb here… but here goes anyway…
I don’t think Bill Tupou will return to full action before his contract runs out and in the best interests of the club we have to find a way to let him and the club move on…
Tom Johnstone is out of contract and his value could be used to benefit now…
Catalans are reported to be interested… they have Kasiano and Dudson out of contact this year and both look like being available…
Johnstone swap for Kasiano and Dudson for the rest of the season would significantly bulk our forwards and give (along with Butler) some forward dominance to allow the halves to play…'"
If Kershaw were available I’d just about go with that.
However a point of note. Two of our three victories this season were created by one man, Tom Johnstone. Probably a similar statistic for a fair few other seasons. The word match winner was made for Tom.
If ever there was a player worth breaking the bank for it Tom and the club know it. It’s also a terrible signal to send out. I know that if he wants out he wants out but let’s not pretend, there is a silver lining to this one, there simply isn’t, it would be a disaster.
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| Quote ="vastman"
If ever there was a player worth breaking the bank for it Tom and the club know it. It’s also a terrible signal to send out. I know that if he wants out he wants out but let’s not pretend, there is a silver lining to this one, there simply isn’t, it would be a disaster.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"If Kershaw were available I’d just about go with that.
However a point of note. Two of our three victories this season were created by one man, Tom Johnstone. Probably a similar statistic for a fair few other seasons. The word match winner was made for Tom.
If ever there was a player worth breaking the bank for it Tom and the club know it. It’s also a terrible signal to send out. I know that if he wants out he wants out but let’s not pretend, there is a silver lining to this one, there simply isn’t, it would be a disaster.'"
Well i'm not a clairvoyant so I've no idea if it would be a disaster. It would be sad to see him go, he's one of the best wingers I've ever seen in my 30 odd years of watching the game, some of his tries are beyond belief and I've loved watching him, but I suppose it was inevitable. He would be the latest 'homegrown' talent to have left in the last 20 years, Ellis, Westwood, Brough to name but 3. At least we got over a 100 appearances out of him and some amazing memories.
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| For me. We do our best to keep him.
If we want to get crowds we need players like him. And there aren't many around.
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"Well i'm not a clairvoyant so I've no idea if it would be a disaster. It would be sad to see him go, he's one of the best wingers I've ever seen in my 30 odd years of watching the game, some of his tries are beyond belief and I've loved watching him, but I suppose it was inevitable. He would be the latest 'homegrown' talent to have left in the last 20 years, Ellis, Westwood, Brough to name but 3. At least we got over a 100 appearances out of him and some amazing memories.'"
You don't need to be clairvoyant IMHO. At the moment he is quite literally the difference between 2 points for 6 and 6 is pretty poor. So short term at least it would be a disaster, long term I suppose we'd get over it so long as the team improves. It all boils down to whether the 2023 team we put together is as a unit better than the one we have with TJ in.
The tragedy is that we should be looking for both, the dream is to put together a team that will allow TJ the opportunities he needs and we seem miles off that at the moment
One point, this is a completely different scenario to Ellis and Westwood whilst Brough sacked himself. In those days the club was a selling club and the club always wanted the money thus the players were happy to go. This is far closer to a call and I'm absolutely certain the club wants to keep him. But it's not about money IMHO, this is one of those rare occasions where it's about success or that lack of.
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| I’d never begrudge if he left for more money/chasing silverware as I don’t think we’ll be challenging any time soon. It is a short career and as Johnstone has known through injury it can be cut short with injury. I’d really like to keep him, as he is one of the best wingers in SL. I think it shows where we are as a team if we’re relying on 1 winger to keep us afloat, though that shows the class above he is from the rest of the team
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| Quote ="vastman"You don't need to be clairvoyant IMHO. At the moment he is quite literally the difference between 2 points for 6 and 6 is pretty poor. So short term at least it would be a disaster, long term I suppose we'd get over it so long as the team improves. It all boils down to whether the 2023 team we put together is as a unit better than the one we have with TJ in.
The tragedy is that we should be looking for both, the dream is to put together a team that will allow TJ the opportunities he needs and we seem miles off that at the moment
One point, this is a completely different scenario to Ellis and Westwood whilst Brough sacked himself. In those days the club was a selling club and the club always wanted the money thus the players were happy to go. This is far closer to a call and I'm absolutely certain the club wants to keep him. But it's not about money IMHO, this is one of those rare occasions where it's about success or that lack of.'"
Sadly … the chances are… if we had had some success … he would probably have missed the big games through injury.
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Sadly … the chances are… if we had had some success … he would probably have missed the big games through injury.'"
That’s a fair old leap.
I could just as easily say he probably wouldn’t have got injured if he didn’t have to do so much graft!
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| Disappointed he'll be going but he's got to think of himself and his career prospects and salary. The thing for me we've never used his strengths correctly so he's never given any space so has needed to score the spectacular acrobatic tries we've seen. Rarely seen us kick to his aerial strength or use a chip over. Or playing outside a centre who needs his own ball. Look at the strike rates of for example Eden & Solomona or even Clare at Castleford similar or better strike rates but no where near TJ ability wise. If and when he goes invest in the players we're lacking and give Lewis Murphy the chance.
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| It’s a pity he did not play when Solomona was playing for us, just think how many 4 points he would have scored.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s a pity he did not play when Solomona was playing for us, just think how many 4 points he would have scored.'"
Not to mention Domic.
He's wasted with us half the time, sick of seeing him driving it out of his own 10 and getting no ball out wide in space.
Hope he doesn't leave, but part of me will love seeing him play in a better team (as long as it's not Leeds, Wigan, Cas, Hull, Catalans, Huddersfield, Salford, KR, Saints or Wire). Shiit, maybe i'm not ready for this afterall...
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s a pity he did not play when Solomona was playing for us, just think how many 4 points he would have scored.'"
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| The perfect centre for TJ was Dean Collis, a genuine centre who knew how to draw his man and get the ball to his winger in space. Missed each other by a season, what a shame.
Much as I like Tupes he’s not a wingers centre he’s a yardage maker capable of scoring. It’s funny really, he’s helped Tom score some spectacular tries yet at the same time he’s buggered up some really simple ones. Typical winger made centre imo, never quite knew when to let the ball go.
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| Quote ="vastman"The perfect centre for TJ was Dean Collis, a genuine centre who knew how to draw his man and get the ball to his winger in space. Missed each other by a season, what a shame.
Much as I like Tupes he’s not a wingers centre he’s a yardage maker capable of scoring. It’s funny really, he’s helped Tom score some spectacular tries yet at the same time he’s buggered up some really simple ones. Typical winger made centre imo, never quite knew when to let the ball go.'"
Yeah ‘Bare’ was a quality centre …. Liked him at Wests and when he came to the Sharks…
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| I appreciate we're not a 'selling club' any more, and I'm fully behind our process of producing our own players - and there's a fine crop coming through it seems- but as a realist I know that unless we win some silverware, other players we produce like Tom, will drift away. It's a shame but that's how it is.
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