I'm sure they'll invent a new category to save them, because we will both really annoy the RFL by submitting stronger applications. Such as, winning a grand final at some distant time in the past (1 point), or not having a club within 1000 miles to the east (1 point).

Well I do and I live in Stanley... this is one of the main reasons I am trying to do my bit to support this scheme as well as for the good of RL. The team I support is not under threat of expulsion from Super League, our playing record has been quite good in recent years, we have good youth development, spend to the cap, make a profit and have plans to improve our now ageing ground.



This line about unused warehouse space is not really true either (don't believe the hype), some space has come free in the older units around J31 but mostly due to the economic climate but when you look at J41 M1 then all the warehouse space is full. Once again there are some older offices around the area empty but many of them are 25+ years old and need to be knocked down and replaced, as do many of the older empty units which are empty because they are not suitable for current logistical standards and operations. If you look at the York Court Paragon estate as well, although they have quite a bit of space left to develop new units, all the units that have been built are taken. Same goes for M1 J39, the Peel site, all the ones that are built are full.

We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average.

The WMDC planning policy team have not highlighted the Newmarket Site for B8 development for any other reason than it is a suitable piece of land to meet national and local targets for employment growth. This land was always going to get re-designated in my opinion, irrespective of any current or potential future applications for the area, Wakefield Community Stadium, Surf Word or bloody UK Disney World, because the site stacks up as being suitable in most ways for future development... plain and simple!

I'm with you on that. I would like to see Wakefield Trinity, with "The Wildcats" as a nickname, to preserve the marketing slant, the logo, and keep Daddy Cool for the kids.

Quote ="Gaslight"And if you used the criteria factoring in the new stadiums, both KR & Bradford have weaker applications and it should be viewed as such, history doesn't matter - if it did Cas, Wakey and Salford would be safe. If the stadiums are started Bradford & KR should be the 2 the RFL look to kick out. '" Err, Quote The licenses will be allocated to those clubs that the RFL board believes are the most suitable, taking into account the: a. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process; b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration'" www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?areaid=193 Bradford have been more successful than all three sides in the SL era and prior to it.

Quote ="Gaslight"And if you used the criteria factoring in the new stadiums, both KR & Bradford have weaker applications and it should be viewed as such, history doesn't matter - if it did Cas, Wakey and Salford would be safe. If the stadiums are started Bradford & KR should be the 2 the RFL look to kick out. '" Err, Quote The licenses will be allocated to those clubs that the RFL board believes are the most suitable, taking into account the: a. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process; b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration'" www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?areaid=193 Bradford have been more successful than all three sides in the SL era and prior to it.

"RFL's reasonable opinion as to the future performance"

The dark cloud has descended once more.

Outwood stanley Wrenthorpe is Wakefield more jobs new stadium, Wakefields more than the City centre + city centre is not next to the motorway. I don't get your arguement, looking at your previous posts you seem obsessed with our stadium, just be pleased for us. I hope you get yours and we will both be playing each other at our new grounds in 2012.

Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo" We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average. '" Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.

Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo" We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average. '" Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.

Far from it. I am keen for both clubs to be in new stadia at their respective chosen locations and some people, despite me continuously saying otherwise, seem to think I'm determined for yours to fail or that I am in some way trying to cause trouble. I'm not.

As for not getting my argument, it is probably my delivery rather than what I'm trying to say.

There's no reason why new stadia cannot catapult both clubs into successful periods, IMO.

Just to add my two pence to the will the RFL kick out a club in 2012, I think IF and it is still a big IF, Salford, Cas & Wakefield do get substantial under way with the development then the RFL will not kick anyone out. I think the RFL have to be seen to be tough and look how much everyone at both Cas and Wakey is doing to make the new stadium's happen... so it is working! Even the RFL are not that bloody stupid because if these ground developments do start in time then kicking out a club is to most probably make them bankrupt, and the RFL will not do that! Widnes, Leigh & Halifax have got their grounds sorted outside of SL and if they don't get admitted they will still be there and still in business and able to apply in another 3 years.

The issue is who will and who won't get that sorted in time? I think the RFL feel that not all of the schemes will come off, I don't think they are wishing for it at all, just that it won't happen and then conyinuing to deny NL1 side a place is also very difficult for an independent sporting body!

Quote ="Fully"Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.'" Yes, but read the story, it was unpredicted and a surprise and the IOD guys says, right at the bottom, that this ain't going to be maintained. The Bank of England, as I said, has just down graded its growth forecast and while the construction industry had it's biggest growth in years, it was purely because schemes that had stopped or had been put on hold started up again. Leeds & Wakefield have two examples of massive retail scheme that have done just that. However, the Government has canned (for now they say?) 700 new BSF projects that were in the pipeline, OK 700 still go ahead but Yorkshire was hit hard and the 4 new Bradford school projects have all been canned! There has been an over development of Leeds City Centre office space in recent years but that was because they developed two much residential space and many sites got switched over. Now that Leeds City centre residential space is in short supply again, they will build more flats and once again when they oversupply, they will switch back to office... what goes around etc! Don't mix up city centre office space with out of town office space, they do generally serve different sectors and requirements and some businesses use both for different strands of their business.

Quote ="Fully"Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.'" Yes, but read the story, it was unpredicted and a surprise and the IOD guys says, right at the bottom, that this ain't going to be maintained. The Bank of England, as I said, has just down graded its growth forecast and while the construction industry had it's biggest growth in years, it was purely because schemes that had stopped or had been put on hold started up again. Leeds & Wakefield have two examples of massive retail scheme that have done just that. However, the Government has canned (for now they say?) 700 new BSF projects that were in the pipeline, OK 700 still go ahead but Yorkshire was hit hard and the 4 new Bradford school projects have all been canned! There has been an over development of Leeds City Centre office space in recent years but that was because they developed two much residential space and many sites got switched over. Now that Leeds City centre residential space is in short supply again, they will build more flats and once again when they oversupply, they will switch back to office... what goes around etc! Don't mix up city centre office space with out of town office space, they do generally serve different sectors and requirements and some businesses use both for different strands of their business.

While all this is interesting (hmmmm) I really dont give a , all I want to see is builders, hundreds of the hairy d buggers grafting away on the 2 sites, I dont care whos ground is finished first just that both are completed and that idiotic sharing/merger talk is banished to historys dustbin (get me)

As for the RFL que sera sera, the lunatics will do as they please till the game is totally ed... Good luck with yours and I hope I havent offended our sensitive teacher with all this goodwill towards you lot

I don't like that statement much at all.

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Those 3 points give the RFL licence once again to just do whatever they want.

Builders and grafting in the same sentence

When did that last happen

Cant see any local builders or tradesmen getting in on the act at either site!! Can see it being cheap EEC labour for companies to maximise the profits on the build!!! So thats a blow to the local economy. Even after the sites are completed can you actually honestly think that there will be jobs for locals? NOT!

Bloody hell big fella, we live in hope , and a few builders with local pride may graft their off on these projects ...................................................................... naahhh mebbe your right, get the kettle on

=#BF0040If you continue this pointless, relentless, negative take on everything - then you will be doing it elsewhere!

Thats true enough but i'll be the BIG builders doing this job.

Lets not bother then, call it all off and then get back to blaming Ted for the demise of the club

Bet our builders are hairier d than yours.

Yes but will they have the funds to pay them, or will they be staged.

I don't know how you can say that,personally I live less than a mile from Newmarket on Aberford Road and look to this as a boost for the area I live in terms of employment and the more businesses over this side of Wakefield the better,for my family and everyone else around. I have friends and relatives who have lived on Moorhouse Estate all their lives,they don't give a monkeys about RL and the new stadium ,but they look at this development as a chance of gaining employment as well as other people on the estate who are unemployed that feel the more jobs around the area will be positive for them personally.

Yes

But I bet ours have more tea breaks

Yup just like your women