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| Quote ="Fully"I never said you were. But the point is that the majority of Wakefield fans don't live in the centre of Wakefield but Ossett, Horbury, Denby Dale etc and a lot of Cas fans come from Garforth, Pontefract, Knottingley, Leeds, Wakefield etc.'"
If you care to read what you have just put you have offered a fantastic case for the stadium being at Newmarket.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"If you care to read what you have just put you have offered a fantastic case for the stadium being at Newmarket.'"
No, I've put a fantastic case as to why a groundshare would be utterly stupid and would completely destroy one club's identity.
I would only a groundshare IF and I mean only IF it was a short term proposal until the other stadium gets built.
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| Quote ="TRB"Statement issued. You'll have to wait! Sorry!'"
So whats new, you'll have to wait, sick of it
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| Quote ="Fully"No, I've put a fantastic case as to why a groundshare would be utterly stupid and would completely destroy one club's identity.'"
In your own mind, perhaps. For anyone else reading the post that JITB has quoted, you've done exactly what he said you've done.
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| To be honest, I’m sick to death of it all.
The Stadium issue has wholly detracted from the reason I watch the game. Every final league position, every game, it just seems empty to me. What’s the point in averaging eighth for a poxy point on Red Hall’s grand plan?
The petty bickering, by certain supporters, is doing my head in!
We’ve got planning, we’ve got funding, blah, blah.
Cas fans saying the only feasible option in Glasshoughton. Wakey fans praying for Newmarket, thread after thread, week after week.
I read TRB’s ‘stay positive’ comments, and think back to T.P.
I read about the Cas venture & R.W’s pep blogs.
I’ve no idea what WMDC’s financial involvement is to either venture, but, I was under the impression that the ground at Newmarket would be built & paid for via the whole scheme as a private venture.
The Cas situation is another matter. Are they funding Glasshoughton through the sale of Wheldon Road, because, until the blast zone issue is resolved they can’t sell jack.
Friends of mine, who don’t really follow the game, will say to me from time to time, ‘Wakey are having a good season’. To which I have to reply ‘yes but, if they don’t get a new ground their going to be kicked out of the league’
You just couldn’t make it up .
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| Quote ="bazzo44"So whats new, you'll have to wait, sick of it'"
Not long - just until someone posts it on the SWAG website - the official site for the campaign.
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| Quote ="TRB"Not long - just until someone posts it on the SWAG website - the [uofficial site for the campaign[/u.'"
What???????????????????????????????????????????????????
do you really think that site gets more reads on this subject than this one??
Phil you are effectively SWAG on here, dont see why, if the statement is ready it cannot be released to be honest.
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| Quote ="Fully"No, I've put a fantastic case as to why a groundshare would be utterly stupid and would completely destroy one club's identity.
I would only a groundshare IF and I mean only IF it was a short term proposal until the other stadium gets built.'"
I believe Box has stated no sharing no funding pick the bones out of that.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"I believe Box has stated no sharing no funding pick the bones out of that.'"
WHAT funding?????????????
What funding is box in control of that can be given to either project at this time?
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"To be honest, I’m sick to death of it all.
The Stadium issue has wholly detracted from the reason I watch the game. Every final league position, every game, it just seems empty to me. What’s the point in averaging eighth for a poxy point on Red Hall’s grand plan?
The petty bickering, by certain supporters, is doing my head in!
We’ve got planning, we’ve got funding, blah, blah.
Cas fans saying the only feasible option in Glasshoughton. Wakey fans praying for Newmarket, thread after thread, week after week.
I read TRB’s ‘stay positive’ comments, and think back to T.P.
I read about the Cas venture & R.W’s pep blogs.
I’ve no idea what WMDC’s financial involvement is to either venture, but, I was under the impression that the ground at Newmarket would be built & paid for via the whole scheme as a private venture.
The Cas situation is another matter. Are they funding Glasshoughton through the sale of Wheldon Road, because, until the blast zone issue is resolved they can’t sell jack.
Friends of mine, who don’t really follow the game, will say to me from time to time, ‘Wakey are having a good season’. To which I have to reply ‘yes but, if they don’t get a new ground their going to be kicked out of the league’
You just couldn’t make it up
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Well at least you dont have to live in WMDC and have the bunch of Castleford muppets running your life.
Think yourself lucky you live in filey and cheer up
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| Quote ="chapster"WHAT funding?????????????
What funding is box in control of that can be given to either project at this time?'"
Havn't you been following all this over the past months
two parcels of land each with the same value. Both pledged to the respective stadiums. Trouble is Cas are way off the financial mark and the truth is they need the wakey land moving to their funding to complete, that is the bottom of it all They have played the tune and Box their monkey is dancing.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Havn't you been following all this over the past months
two parcels of land each with the same value. Both pledged to the respective stadiums. Trouble is Cas are way off the financial mark and the truth is they need the wakey land moving to their funding to complete, that is the bottom of it all They have played the tune and Box their monkey is dancing.'"
er so who actually owns both pieces of land?
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| Quote ="chapster"er so who actually owns both pieces of land?'"
WMDC owns them. I know where the Wakey land is but not sure about Cas. Both are worth a few million but the exact value is a bit contraversial at the moment.
Box is prepared to ditch Newmarket to divert this funding to Cas.
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| Quote ="chapster"What???????????????????????????????????????????????????
[udo you really think that site gets more reads on this subject than this one??[/u
Phil you are effectively SWAG on here, dont see why, if the statement is ready it cannot be released to be honest.'"
It will be released/posted on the OFFICIAL site and then we can chew the fat on here.
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| [urlhttp://www.swag-online.co.uk/[/url
There you go!
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| on SWAG now...
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| Great statement from SWAG, reminding all concerned about the past duplicity of both WMDC & Box where WTRLFC are concerned.
Whatever happens I hope that the outcome sees both clubs surviving as viable SL clubs - anything less would be a disaster for the district of Wakefield.
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| No doesnt help me, if our scheme is independantly sustainable, what does the previous thornes stuff matter, or is it only sustainable with the pledge of the cash from the land sale?
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| damn those crazy politicians.
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| So, am I right in saying that SWAG are still convinced that Newmarket is a go'er, but are worried that political shenanigans may try to remove some of the funding guarantee and use it to bolster the Cas stadium? Is it conceivable that WMDC are so convinced that Newmarket will go ahead that they feel they no longer need this guarantee, and see it as a chance to boost TWO areas?
Or is it the same old WMDC - teasing, but when it comes to the crunch running a mile. Only time will tell - but it's doing my head in!!!!
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| Quote ="chapster"No doesnt help me, if our scheme is independantly sustainable, what does the previous thornes stuff matter, or is it only sustainable with the pledge of the cash from the land sale?'"
No land is to be sold - at least not yet. Funding towards the stadium was to be made available to both schemes via the opportunity to borrow money and set it against the land. Peter is now threatening the removal of even this last effort - despite letting us get 2 years down the road thinking we would get it - not just the time since it was rubber stamped by cabinet last year!
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| Quote ="chapster"No doesnt help me, if our scheme is independantly sustainable, what does the previous thornes stuff matter, or is it only sustainable with the pledge of the cash from the land sale?'"
It's just another way of saying "look, you've cacked on us once, have some decency and don't cack on us again". And it's absolutely bang on.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"So, am I right in saying that SWAG are still convinced that Newmarket is a go'er, but are worried that political shenanigans may try to remove some of the funding guarantee and use it to bolster the Cas stadium?
The same old WMDC - teasing, but when it comes to the crunch running a mile.'"
There's an answer!
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| Quote ="TRB"There's an answer!'"
He's a crafty little sod is Peter, isn't he?
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| Why did Box choose to make a press release only to the Wakey rag, no consideration to letting the Pont and cas readers know about this. Could it be that he believes they have no need to worry about such matters as their beloved Pete is making sure they get what they want.
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