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| Quote ="i8no-one"Who is giving him stick ? I have not, and he is a big boy, I am sure he is more than capable of defending his own reply to any posts, without 4 or 5 of you lot making a debate into a us and you situation.
The situation on, and now off the field at Wakefield is very poor to say the least, and if you dont agree than thats your opinion.
I want to be wrong, but I will show my ar5e on the end terrace if we get a new licence.'"
Of course I agree with the on and off situation at Wakefield at the moment. I doubt many will disagree.
I still think TRB is getting to much stick (and not just from you) yes, I'm sure he is more than capable of sticking up for himself. Thats my opinion, not an us and you (them) situation.
If you don't like people having an opinion on your posts send a PM. Thats the only way you will get people to
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| Quote ="i8no-one"Who is giving him stick ? I have not, and he is a big boy, I am sure he is more than capable of defending his own reply to any posts, without 4 or 5 of you lot making a debate into a us and you situation.
The situation on, and now off the field at Wakefield is very poor to say the least, and if you dont agree than thats your opinion.
[size=150I want to be wrong, but I will show my ar5e on the end terrace if we get a new licence.'" [/size
think you willbe keeping your bags on fella
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| Dont really see what ted having an IVA as got to do with wakey trin RLFC ... and to link players going is just crazy as the money never went into teds pocket it saved the concern (WTWC) money .. Yep it looks bad if you put the neg spin on it and of course some will as some will put a positive on it . but the plain fact off the matter is that ted Richardson is one man and by entering an IVA just might be the catalyst to actually save the club.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"[/size
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I hope so, oh sod it, the butt cheeks are coming out anyway licence or not !
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| Think you need them to converse.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"Dont really see what ted having an IVA as got to do with wakey trin RLFC ... and to link players going is just crazy as the money never went into teds pocket it saved the concern (WTWC) money .. Yep it looks bad if you put the neg spin on it and of course some will as some will put a positive on it . but the plain fact off the matter is that ted Richardson is one man and by entering an IVA just might be the catalyst to actually save the club.'"
I've just had a word with the Head of our IVA team here and he says the following:
You can still be a director of a limited company and in an IVA. The only exception to this would be if the company's rules prevented this, but these could quickly and easily be changed with an Extraordinary General Meeting. Basically the person has 'ring fenced' his own finances from his businesses and set up a formal agreement to pay back over a fixed period. This means that his creditors cannot try to get payment from his company(ies).
As an outsider my first thoughts were that this guy has put everything, including his last penny, into your club to keep it where it is today and instead of lambasting him for it, you should be thanking him.
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| I'm sure there's a statistic somewhere that demonstrates that a disproportionate amount of entrepeneurs have been declared bankrupt (and are dyslexic!) at some time in their business lives - I guess it comes with the territory; business success depends on taking risks.
Furthermore, I can't imagine for a minute that for all his failings, Ted has been naive or daft enough to have WTW's finances tied up with his own; the club will no doubt be owned by a holding company or some other legal entity that limits liability. His IVA may bar him from being the Director of a company for a period of time, but that's easily got around and happens all the time.
So - whilst the timing of this leaked news does indeed serves to strengthen the perception that WTW is going down the pan, I'm not sure it really does mean that; the IVA could very well be a strategy that Ted and his advisors have entered into proactively, as TRB has alluded to.
I still believe that the club is run on a woefully amateurish basis, but this news doesn't make me feel any more depressed about the future than I already was; now it's out in the open though, I strongly agree that the club should issue a statement - perception is, after all, reality!
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| Quote ="Wadski"I've just had a word with the Head of our IVA team here and he says the following:
You can still be a director of a limited company and in an IVA. The only exception to this would be if the company's rules prevented this, but these could quickly and easily be changed with an Extraordinary General Meeting. Basically the person has 'ring fenced' his own finances from his businesses and set up a formal agreement to pay back over a fixed period. This means that his creditors cannot try to get payment from his company(ies).
As an outsider my first thoughts were that this guy has put everything, including his last penny, into your club to keep it where it is today and instead of lambasting him for it, you should be thanking him.'"
I dont think many would agree with that comment.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I still believe that the club is run on a woefully amateurish basis, but this news doesn't make me feel any more depressed about the future than I already was; now it's out in the open though, I strongly agree that the club should issue a statement - perception is, after all, reality!'"
It may sound daft, but in some ways it's almost a relief. Now we know exactly where we stand, or almost. I agree that some comment from the club would be helpful.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm sure there's a statistic somewhere that demonstrates that a disproportionate amount of entrepeneurs have been declared bankrupt (and are dyslexic!) at some time in their business lives - I guess it comes with the territory; business success depends on taking risks.
Furthermore, I can't imagine for a minute that for all his failings, Ted has been naive or daft enough to have WTW's finances tied up with his own; the club will no doubt be owned by a holding company or some other legal entity that limits liability. His IVA may bar him from being the Director of a company for a period of time, but that's easily got around and happens all the time.
So - whilst the timing of this leaked news does indeed serves to strengthen the perception that WTW is going down the pan, I'm not sure it really does mean that; the IVA could very well be a strategy that Ted and his advisors have entered into proactively, as TRB has alluded to.
I still believe that the club is run on a woefully amateurish basis, but this news doesn't make me feel any more depressed about the future than I already was; now it's out in the open though, =#BF0040I strongly agree that the club should issue a statement - perception is, after all, reality!'"
It will appear later today I believe.
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| Quote ="i8no-one"
The situation on, and now off the field at Wakefield is very poor to say the least, and if you dont agree than thats your opinion. '"
I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
The discussions should be more about how we get out of it and how we support the club (or not)
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| Is this related to the tax bill thing from earlier on in the year or is that a differant issue?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Is this related to the tax bill thing from earlier on in the year or is that a differant issue?'"
Completely different issue.
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| Can anyone pm me the 'other forum' link please
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Completely different issue.'"
Ok, thanks.
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| TRB asI posted on an earlier thread I do not see why you are again giving the club's side of the story when it is certainly not your job to do this.If the bod do not put out a statement themselves then I think that they will go down in everyone's respect and at the moment that can do nothing but but bring more damage to the club and would to me show that the bod have no respect whatso ever for their loyal band of supporters.
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| Quote ="1948er"TRB asI posted on an earlier thread I do not see why you are again giving the club's side of the story when it is certainly not your job to do this.If the bod do not put out a statement themselves then I think that they will go down in everyone's respect and at the moment that can do nothing but but bring more damage to the club and would to me show that the bod have no respect whatso ever for their loyal band of supporters.'"
i concur with the above.................
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| statement from the board is needed
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
The discussions should be more about how we get out of it and how we support the club (or not)'"
We all support the team, me, you, everyone on here does, thats why this situation hurts like hell. I however have had enough this season, I am done from here on in. I hope that I find my mojo for the game again, but for me that will be next season, I just dont like wasting my time, and before any comments about loyalty, I have done the rounds for the past 31 years from the age of 14, with the exception of the 10 years I spent in the Army, I have attended most home and away games, its just getting harder for some reason..
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| Quote ="Normy98"statement from the board is needed
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nothing to do with board
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"nothing to do with board
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| Quote ="Normy98"So ted has nothing to do with the board then'"
yes of course he has but the IVA does not
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| Then they should come out and give us an asurance that that is the case, that's if they know.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Then they should come out and give us an asurance that that is the case, that's if they know.'"
yes and then they can explain why allied carpets closed down
you do realise that probably more than one share holder will be suffering a hard time at the moment .
if you check the register under Mutts the Cat you will see that moderators can still carry on with IVAs
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| Quote ="TRB"I'll assume that is me!
I didn't know at the time - I found out last Sunday night by PM and subsequently informed the club that the news was out there and ready to break. I think they had hoped that this would stay private, but it has lasted 6 weeks - which I reckon was pretty good really!
I appreciate your concern!'"
i knew sunday but didnt inform the club.thats the difference why did you your not the club spokesman its afans forum
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