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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"
But if the club told me i had to go....................would i tell everyone? or say that i wanted to go?'"
What would it matter? Leeds want him, either way he will not lose face.
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| I can obviously see why Leeds want him and paying £20k now is better than maybe 100k (or 3 friendlies!) in 2/3 years.
I really cant understand him wanting to go at this time in his career though. Having seen him a few times now, the potential is definately there but his defense is simply not good enough to be pushing for a place in the Leeds side in the next 18 months.
He would be far better off staying here and playing 15 games or so next season rather than going there and ending up on loan at Halifax (no disrespect) this time next year.
Is it about the cash?? Is he really, at 18 years old (??) concerned that his game is been stifled??? Most lads that age would just be happy to be involved and learning of the senior pros and coaches. Does he believe his natural off loading game would be good enough at the top level at this stage in his career?
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| Quote ="vastman"Seems a bit strange that a club like Leeds feels the need to sign and pay for a relative unknown like Pitts. Makes you wonder if Leeds much vaunted youth system has not been quite as succesfull of late in producing those up and coming players and they have now reverted to the Leeds of old.'"
The Leeds of old would have gone out and bought a current international or at least a star, would they not? Therefore that argument does not fit.
Quote ="vastman"This I feel is good news for us as I can't recall the last player other than Ellis we sold to Leeds who really made it or didn't come back to us in the end.'"
Do you want to give us that list of players that have been sold to Leeds from Wakey over last say 15 years, other than Ellis?
Quote ="vastman"The odds are in our favour
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Lets see that list before agreeing on that one.
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"Without being disrespectful to wakefield, I am sure any 17/18 year old kid who gets the opportunity to go to Leeds would take it if he was earning the same money and having same opportunity to play first team rugby. Whether he does get more game time at Leeds than he has or would get at Wakefield remains to be seen.'"
How is that not disrespectful to Wakefield?? That is utter arrogance in my book.
Wakey play in SL - as do Leeds.
Wakey provide a route to the first team - as do Leeds.
Wakey pay in Pounds Sterling - as do Leeds.
In fact there are some very valid reasons why a young player would be better off at Wakey than at Leeds. If we accept that this is our position so easily, then what chance do we have in promoting the career opportunities to 16 and 18 year olds - which is exactly what we are trying to do right now.
I genuinely believe that Jay is making the wrong move, but he's free to do so - just as I am free to believe that not everything Leeds is shiny!
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| Agree there TRB, good post.
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"Not what i was told..................but not inconcievable that im wrong
But if the club told me i had to go....................would i tell everyone? or say that i wanted to go?'"
You are wrong, as far as I'm aware we have matched Leeds though I don't know figures. It's sad but it's the reality of RL.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The Leeds of old would have gone out and bought a current international or at least a star, would they not? Therefore that argument does not fit.
Do you want to give us that list of players that have been sold to Leeds from Wakey over last say 15 years, other than Ellis?
Lets see that list before agreeing on that one.'"
Leeds are taking a punt because they have failed to produce a Pitts type player. Why so defensive I'm simply looking at it from a positive.
The most recent failure we off loaded to you was Feather by the way.
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| Quote ="TRB"How is that not disrespectful to Wakefield??
That is utter arrogance in my book.
Wakey play in SL - as do Leeds.
Wakey provide a route to the first team - as do Leeds.
Wakey pay in Pounds Sterling - as do Leeds.
In fact there are some very valid reasons why a young player would be better off at Wakey than at Leeds. If we accept that this is our position so easily, then what chance do we have in promoting the career opportunities to 16 and 18 year olds - which is exactly what we are trying to do right now.
I genuinely believe that Jay is making the wrong move, but he's free to do so - just as I am free to believe that not everything Leeds is shiny!
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Totally agree.
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| Is the simple fact that Leeds are a winning team with a winning culture and we are not?
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| That is prob one of the reasons, but at a young age, like Pitts you should be looking to play as much first team rugby as possible.
IMO he would get more first team chances at Wakey then Leeds.
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| Quote ="jermaine"Broughton would have to improve on his defence in my opinion'"
To be fair he is playing on the wing and is really a centre, his defence isnt a problem he just makes the wrong decison and comes in to help his centre leaving the wing unapposed.
From what I seen of him he has really impressed me at Hull, his has great speed and strenght, think he could make a very good centre in a couple of years. At the moment he is working full time but is looking to give that up to play RL FT, so he would benifit massivley from going FT.
I would sign him for Hull but we already have Tansey, Calderwood, Raynor, Yeaman, Hall, Briscoe (and his younger brother Jack) signed on for next season
I hope you sign him and he goes well for you.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Rubbish......absolutely rubbish!!!
He wanted to go, he is getting paid more and that comes from a close family memeber.
PM me if you want to know how l know!'"
jay is upset that he was left with no oppotunty but to go , its a case of being pushed and not just for the money or at least that was the view last week.
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| Quote ="vastman"You are wrong, as far as I'm aware we have matched Leeds though I don't know figures. It's sad but it's the reality of RL.'"
the fact you don't know the figures suggests you don't have all the relevant information for your pitch vasty .
on that basis i will not be investing today and im out
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| Leeds have announced the signing of a young prop from Whitehaven today, Luke Amor I think he's called. Does this move pour cold water on the rumours of Pitts going to Leeds?
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Leeds have announced the signing of a young prop from Whitehaven today, Luke Amor I think he's called. Does this move pour cold water on the rumours of Pitts going to Leeds?'"
Don't think so. Reading the posts it's a done deal, although the reasons for his departure are still up in the air. Was he pushed or did he choose to go? It would be concerning if he was encouraged to go.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Leeds have announced the signing of a young prop from Whitehaven today, Luke Amor I think he's called. Does this move pour cold water on the rumours of Pitts going to Leeds?'"
Kyle Amor, and nope, the deal for Jay is still on.
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| Quote ="Mutts"jay is upset that he was left with no oppotunty but to go , its a case of being pushed and not just for the money or at least that was the view last week.'"
It's not the old Wakey tactic of getting rid of a player just before he is probably due a bonus payment if he played anymore first team games? I've heard that said before about other players over the years.
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| Quote ="Don Brennans Leg"It's not the old Wakey tactic of getting rid of a player just before he is probably due a bonus payment if he played anymore first team games? I've heard that said before about other players over the years.'"
would not be the first
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| Quote ="Don Brennans Leg"It's not the old Wakey tactic of getting rid of a player just before he is probably due a bonus payment if he played anymore first team games? I've heard that said before about other players over the years.'"
The 'Graham Law' clause!
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| Just why would a young player leave a club where he has been given the opportunity to play 1st team football and would probably next season play more ,1st team matches,surely at Leeds there must be six or seven more experienced players that would be more likely to play before Jay Pitts would be considered.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"The 'Graham Law' clause!'"
First name that sprang to my mind.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Kyle Amor, and nope, the deal for Jay is still on.'"
another one we missed out on been saying we should have had a look at this lad months ago
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| Considering he's only a "squad" player at wakey and likely to be the same at leeds i'm sure he'll get as many chances at leeds as he would with you.
Especially when you consider bluey's attitude to rotating his squad.
Good signing for us imo and looking forward to seeing how he develops.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Considering he's only a "squad" player at wakey and likely to be the same at leeds i'm sure he'll get as many chances at leeds as he would with you.
Especially when you consider bluey's attitude to rotating his squad.
Good signing for us imo and looking forward to seeing how he develops.'"
Is it a done deal then??
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| Quote ="The Nihilist"Is it a done deal then??'"
I'm told so by a number of source's and have no reason to disbelieve them YET!
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