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| Would love to see Rooney make a return if fit enough, think hes got a great rugby brain on him and can spot gaps in defences better than most. A proper stand off too, anyone know how hes getting on?
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| Quote ="TFC"Would love to see Rooney make a return if fit enough, think hes got a great rugby brain on him and can spot gaps in defences better than most. A proper stand off too, anyone know how hes getting on?'"
If we can get the real Rooney back it would be a massive bonus for us.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Like I said when you see George name in the squad you expect him to play on the wing so that you mean you recognise him as a winger.'"
Adam that's not my argument. If you see atkins, martin, gleeson and George in a squad they are all centres but you don't have four centres in your team. Some may have to play out of position.
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| Quote ="LG"Adam that's not my argument. If you see atkins, martin, gleeson and George in a squad they are all centres but you don't have four centres in your team. Some may have to play out of position.'"
I class George as a winger because that is where he has played most of his games.
Maybe in a few years time he will move into the centre but for now he is a winger when I see him in the squad
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| Quote ="adam9641"I class George as a winger because that is where he has played most of his games.
Maybe in a few years time he will move into the centre but for now he is a winger when I see him in the squad'"
Yer and I appreciate that but the argument was play players in there proper/recognised position. Jk has stated before that he thinks George is a centre.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"so weve still got drew, obst,latu martin,brough, grix and maybe rooney thats 7 of 17 something or someone has to give ,'"
need to lose 3 out of 7 at the end of this season for 1 quality stand off
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| Quote ="TFC"Would love to see Rooney make a return if fit enough, think hes got a great rugby brain on him and can spot gaps in defences better than most. A proper stand off too, anyone know how hes getting on?'"
yep but our defence needs to tighten up Rooney is a defensive nightmare
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| I am not sure who will be fit for next week, I presume Murphy will be out and I have doubts about Drew (he couldn`t complete training on Friday) but i wonder if we might see the following:-
Blaymire
Gleeson
Martin
Atkins
Petersen
Rooney
Brough
Wilkes
Obst
Stosic
Snitch
Ferguson
Demetriou
Moore
Sculthorpe
Latu
Winterstein.
Sorry if that strikes anybody as radical/logical, but at least the players are in their recognised/accustomed positions - every man to his trade, after 3 defeats on the bounce it may be the sort of shake-up we need.
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| Quote ="LG"Adam that's not my argument. If you see atkins, martin, gleeson and George in a squad they are all centres but you don't have four centres in your team. Some may have to play out of position.'"
Exactly you wouldnt think it would be difficult to comprehend that would you
Quote ="adam9641"I class George as a winger because that is where he has played most of his games. Maybe in a few years time he will move into the centre but for now he is a winger'"
It doesnt matter what you class him as, in the great scheme of things its what Kear thinks of him that matters. It must be comforting for him to know that in a few years time he might move into the centre. As a matter of interest have you imformed coach Kear of your observations.
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| Needs a mobile side, they're not the biggest pack and there 3/4 line is quite big and strong Mr Kear needs to start picking players in position Sam is no more a 6 than my mum, but he's a good 7 or 9, Henderson is too slow for centres so he's in the mix forback row only and that's getting tougher now with frank. Grix isn't a winger, and him next to atkins is a recipe for disaster if we can afford it he's a replacement off the bench or he has to wait for an injury at 1 or 6. Matin has played his best rugby at 6 and that coincides with ourbest rugby, so;
Blaymire
George if fit
Gleeson if fit
Atkins
Peeterson
Martin
Brough
Wilkes
Drew
Snitch
Henderson
Winterstein
Demitriou
Scullthorpe
Moore
Rooney
Latu
No Sam, 3 poor games on the spin, ditto grix
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| Regarding the Luke George argument:
In the future, if he progresses, I have no doubt that he will be a centre.
At the moment, at this stage of his development which is something the coach will take into consideration, at Super League level he is a winger. I'm also sure that Luke George himself would accept this as the case.
As he becomes more accomplished, confident and comfortable at Super League level I'm sure he will move into the centre's and be bloody good at that.
Might I also point out that when David Topliss first broke into the 1st team at Trinity it was as a winger. Everyone knew that he would become a half back but at first he was chosen on the wing because thats what he could cope with and deliver from. As he matured he moved into the stand off role and the rest is history.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Exactly you wouldnt think it would be difficult to comprehend that would you
It doesnt matter what you class him as, in the great scheme of things its what Kear thinks of him that matters. It must be comforting for him to know that in a few years time he might move into the centre. As a matter of interest have you imformed coach Kear of your observations.'"
So fans can not have an opinion now?
So whats the point in a forum?
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| The Quins squad is now at full strength(minus Haggerty) The injured players all played for the reserves yesterday.
You will be up against a team running hot(although at times inconsistent!)
To add to the fear factor we have George Sampson from Britain's got talent dancing and singing before the game!!! be warned
Our centres are Howell and Gafa- both are coming to form at the moment. Howell is scoring for fun
See you all Sunday
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| Quote ="wire-quin"The Quins squad is now at full strength(minus Haggerty) The injured players all played for the reserves yesterday.
You will be up against a team running hot(although at times inconsistent!)
To add to the fear factor we have George Sampson from Britain's got talent dancing and singing before the game!!!
be warned
Our centres are Howell and Gafa- both are coming to form at the moment. Howell is scoring for fun
See you all Sunday'"
Jeez I'm quivering all over!
Nice to know that it's taken a Wakefield born n bred lad to get Quins going forward!
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| Quote ="adam9641"So fans can not have an opinion now?
So whats the point in a forum?
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Is there anything you do not have an opinion about?
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| Quote ="chissitt"sleepy.gif Is there anything you do not have an opinion about?'"
Is there anything you have an opinion about?
The lad made a good point and all you had to say is Kear this and that. End of day it's his opinion one I agree with.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Jeez I'm quivering all over!
Nice to know that it's taken a Wakefield born n bred lad to get Quins going forward!'"
This sounds very negative towards the Quins, do you not think they should be a club
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| Yes I do think they should be a club.
I don't think it was negative of me to point out that Brian McDermott is a Wakefield lad especialy in the week before we play them.
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| I am sorry I read in a different way, and yes I was aware of where he was from, I am just used to people I work with saying that them among other clubs "do not deserve to be in our league" i think because they are not on the 62
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| just been on the blower to Luke to ask if hes a wing man but he told me he most definitely prefers the breast.
any way back on topic
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| When Stosic was selling raffle tickets on Saturday, he said he hoped to be available for selection next week, if not, week after.
I think there is a good chance of a win on Sunday. I think some of the players will have been embarrassed by their defence on Saturday, particularly for the Fielden try, and I just have a feeling that they may go out on the pitch with something to prove. Would be good to hit form again before the Hudds game.
I would play Rooney, if fit. A proper stand-off, who hopefully is chomping at the bit. For me, Martin takes the kick option to often in attack when there is a running play on.
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| if players are fit... my choice would be
1) Matt Blaymire
2) Luke George
3) Ryan Atkins
4) Sean Gleeson
5) Matt Petersen
6) Scott Grix
7) Danny Brough
Richard Bibey
9) Brad Drew
10) James Stocic
11) Steve Snitch
12) Jay Pitts
13) Dale Ferguson
14) Frank Winterstien
15) Richard Moore
16) Danny Sculthorpe
17) Tevita Leo Latu
when things start to go sour we always drop the british players and stack the aussies in the team... I would like to see us put faith in the young and the english players, and rotate the overseas players in support roles.
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| This season the players/coaching staff have all agreed that no one will get
a game in the first team before they have played for the reserves. Sounds well in theory but right know it could by an hinderance.
We have players stacking up to get picked but did not have a reserve game last week and will not get another one till the weekend I believe. Therefore if JK sticks to that system you can forget Bibbey,Stoisc and Rooney.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"This season the players/coaching staff have all agreed that no one will get
a game in the first team before they have played for the reserves. Sounds well in theory but right know it could by an hinderance.
We have players stacking up to get picked but did not have a reserve game last week and will not get another one till the weekend I believe. Therefore if JK sticks to that system you can forget Bibbey,Stoisc and Rooney.'"
I can understand why they've come to that agreement, it does make sense to do it that way, but the downside is thats players who are match fit and just miss one game through a knock are still match fit and ready to go. Long term injuries should be brought back through the reserves(rooney/bibbey/stosic) but i reckon Fergy and Gleeson could drop straight back in with no real problems.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I can understand why they've come to that agreement, it does make sense to do it that way, but the downside is thats players who are match fit and just miss one game through a knock are still match fit and ready to go. Long term injuries should be brought back through the reserves(rooney/bibbey/stosic) but i reckon Fergy and Gleeson could drop straight back in with no real problems.'"
Yes but we are crying out for some muscle upfront. Its also much easier for props to come back as they can take 3 /10 minute spells. I think for this match we should ignore this rule.
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