Cherry Evans will be at the World Cup. Maybe he fancies a change



To be honest there are so many NRL players choosing to play for the heritage nations there will be some major talent on show.

You provided a list of statements which you indicated may have been made by me, to ask you for which ones is not distraction but clarification because the fact you posted it would suggest you had verified it.
Then we have Vastman who suggested I was trolling because I had not check something I had not even raised Lineham’s age. I asked him to tell me where I had mentioned this and once again I still wait his reply.
I think you both need to up your games and if you make a statement and have it questioned then at least show where you had got it from.
With regards you PT you object to me having an opinion on a past or future signing because the coach knows best when you yourself did so with regards TJ. I was not deflecting just pointing out you do not have exclusivity to comment on signings.

This is getting tedious but I'll try one last time

You said that the club don't listen to 'us' supporters.

I said I'm glad they don't and listed some random things 'us' supporters have said to try and show why it would be bad for the club to listen to the advice of supporters.

I thought that would be enough to state my position on this.

When you deflected and tried to ask which were yours. I said none of them were. I thought that would have been clear too....but here we are.

I can't remember ever saying Tom Johnstone should be loaned to Featherstone....it doesn’t sound like me but by all means show me if i did...though he was dropped early in his career to help him progress and if Featherstone had been an option for Smith he might have done it.

In all my time on here, I've never seen an original opinion post from you, only criticism of somebody else's or a passive aggressive question implying something is wrong at the club. I'd love to read an actual original thought.

But no.1 point. I am more than happy for anyone to state their opinion of anything rugby or Wakefield connected. What I don't think is that Willie should read the boards and base his strategy on that opinion. Mine or anyone else's.
Hope that helps.

The items all businesses need to survive is a good product, good customer relations, excellent marketing and a positive outlook which in turn will generate interest, sell tickets and merchandise. We currently fail on most of these therefore we struggle which will be further exacerbated by the cost of living crisis. We have released a large part of our squad with the appropriate salary savings to start again, if we fail in our recruitment then we will continue to spiral downwards.
It’s not really rocket science but you must start with the product on the field and that is now up to WP with the financial backing of the board. We are unfortunately late again to the party due to our perennial struggles with relegation so allowing so many to leave could be a gamble if we cannot find quality replacements.

I’ve always been of the view that if players want to leave for whatever reason ,there is no point trying to hold onto them ,let them go and move on .We’ve more or less to a man watched in frustration at our lack of attacking prowess over the course of the last seasons , it has been particularly frustrating especially when camped on the opposite goal line for extended periods to come away pointless . For me this clear out has been long overdue , yes there will always be collateral damage , but we can’t look behind us now , hindsight is a wonderful thing ,but move on ,and look forwards to a new season in super league with our new team, and I will be cheering on whoever runs out for us in the red,white and blue , that is after I’ve give the current squad the applause they deserve after their last game tonight .

You make me laugh.

You pontificate about the club being run like a business then you cry like a baby when it is.

You endlessly snipe about a lack of players and demand that we find magic money from somewhere. Then you have the audacity to lecture people for not running the club in a business like manner. You really are a total piece of work.

One thing I can tell from reading your posts is that you’ve never run a business. You’ve been salaried all your life, probably a cushy number at that. No one who had could so spectacularly fail to grasp how it all works.

That or you’re just a troll. Which is it?

I must admit it would be great to see the club undertake some marketing and setting some targets
Another 2500 attending on a regular basis would be a reasonable target to start with.
Do the boxes sell out for all games if not offer a payable draw to all for one or two games free.
Provide a fly on the wall type documentary give one of the players on a weekly basis a vidio camera and show its contence the week after.
Communicate better with the supporters and quit all the doom and gloom permanently.

I think MC does fill any empty boxes with late deals but I like all these suggestions.

Fans get it right occasionally but not often. Coaches do get it wrong but in percentage terms way less than the fans. Every fan deep down thinks he's a coach, even you, but most of us, myself include, bow to the fact that at the very best we are knowledgeable amateurs.

If Poching signs Gale it's because he needs that kind of player, it won't be just to fill a gap. How well he does is up to the player, but one things is for sure is that's what Gale will be saying and sometimes you just have to go with your instinct and trust people Yet posters on here whose only real knowledge of RL is playing it as a kid and watching it for 80 minutes every other week - still know best. Bet they wouldn't read a few science books and then go tell NASA they have it all wrong.

Picking players you like and bagging those you don't is part of the fun of being on a forum - but the minute you start to believe you are right, certainly about players, then you've lost it. With most of us it's only temporary and in my case I may love Lino Mason this time next year, and Poching I'm warming to, it's just venting off steam for most, others seem to have a permanent blind spot and an incredibly high opinion of their own abilities.

You forgot to mention

Kay - can't play hooker

Lyne - will never be a centre

Hampshire - the greatest H/B of his generation

Anakin - the best forward at the club

Then there are the Mystic Meg ones..

The players who we let go who have come back to haunt us. The potential list is enormous I grant you, but the actual list is da da

Gareth Ellis, Westwood and the fat lad at Cas

Exactly. I love discussing all that but I'd rather Willie make the actual decisions than me.

Who was a Chester signing...........

You have a wife FIL??


Jesus, she must have the patience of a saint....


......Although I'd have thought she'd actually like to get rid.....


There's hope for us all.....

The Pimp does make the odd suggestion. There is a post somewhere way back where The Pimp suggested that Joey Leilua would be a better signing than Corey Hall.

Absolute classic,

I bet they would unfortunately

Houston……… we have a problem

Beep...

If it was relating to who signed him BG it would matter but because I was referring to the above strategy of the Oracle which clearly failed in the case of Lineham it does not.

You forgot to mention

Kay - can't play hooker

Lyne - will never be a centre

Hampshire - the greatest H/B of his generation

Anakin - the best forward at the club - you forgot to mention the suggestion we try him at stand off. I wonder which Mystic Meg that was ?

Then there are the Mystic Meg ones..

I have not run a business, I guess you did once but no more. I bow to your greater business acumen and that a loss of 20% of your customer base and 30% of sales is obviously the way to go. The big difference is that I am not wanting to be the voice of the supporters especially when that voice is so obviously compromised, so much so you are even starting to use the same phrases.
I did not suggest using any extra money other than that gained from the offloading of a large portion of the squad or do you not agree with this and would you prefer to use this elsewhere?
I regret I am not trolling but if my suggestions offend your sensitive side wherever that may be based so be it.

"I regret I am not a troll".........wow

and these suggestions of which you speak? I still haven't seen any? Only talking down what is being done and generalising about what you think is good business. That's hardly going to win you the Apprentice.

I have pointed it out several times gets the product right which helps with the rest. I may have simplified it but that does not mean it is wrong, regardless of the business. I don’t need to talk down the club because they advertise this themselves by confirming the reduction in season ticket and merchandise sales. They also blame the “fans” for this not the fact that what as been produced does not encourage supporters to go.

Still no suggestion. Only criticising.

Pointing out that we need to play better to get more fans in isn't a suggestion of how to improve. We all know that. The suggestion would be answering the question how we do that.

Telling fans where we are with season ticket sales isn't talking down the club, it is communicating to the fan base/customer. Isn't that on your list of things a good business has to do?
They haven't blamed the fans as well you know.

Fun as it is debunking your fake news diatribe against the club, my team is playing tonight. Need to get a move I.

I had a business once and it was very successful until I got carried away. I purchased myself a Range Rover when the business could only afford a Mondeo.

We ran out of money and in the end I sold out to my partner. He didn’t have a Range Rover, he didn’t even have. Mondeo.

He’s now retired and ironically does have a Range Rover.

I’m not bitter, he was right I was wrong, but I did learn. In 20 years I’ve never bought anything I couldn’t afford or borrowed what I couldn’t comfortably pay back.

The club is run exactly the same and rightly so. At the moment we are a second hand Mondeo club but if we can stay in SL within budget one day we will be the Range Rover club.

Hope that helps.

At least it wasn’t a Porsche, but getting back to the future, if it is true that Drinkwater at Catalan is out of favour, then he would be a good signing.