I can't imagine that only one club, or players of just one club, would use a loophole to be able to play over here, would you?

Widnes messed their own application up (and IMO if they'd have made it in it would have been instead of Salford rather than Celtic).

As for Fev and Fax, their applications seemed to be more about laying down a marker for next time rather than really being in a position to get one from 2009.

Yes, clearly this isn't good news for Celtic, but its connection to franchising is a complex one that is best sorted out by the relevant authorities.

well time will tell wont it remeber quins are in poor form to so win against them and celtic would c us in whats your run in anyway? you talk as if your safe

and cas are top of their game

And you write as if you are drunk.

Wire, Le Cats and hull Kingston

we're playig wire a week before their cup final, we could easily be playing Hull Kingston at a time when they have a league position secured, so could quite easily be resting a few and le cats away....well, they may need to win to get into the playoffs, but...we won there last season...

so, 3 winnable games for us, potential finishing league points = 32

If cas win their remaining 3, they will end up on 30 points...

I dont see you beating wigan - theyre the form team at the moment, so thats a maximum of 28 available points...not to mention a massive +/- to boot....

you think youre a shoe in for the playoffs....at the moment, youre looking quite capable of missing out on the top 8 - especially after getting nothing short of HAMMERED at leeds.....

I was just going to say the same thing. Bvgger Off!!

You ask - where does that put you? Above you, that's where it puts us!

firstly, its 'their'

secondly, the only thing that stopped us beating leeds was ourselves...'dint they HAMMER you' ?

what a cock up lets get FAX or Widnes in pronto. Lets get these jokers out!

which jokers? cas or celtic?

oh wait...i have a better idea....lets bring fax and widnes in at the expense of celtic AND cas ...

now cas' ground has gone bottom over breast, players being asked to take pay cuts, the club backing out on deals to sign players....keeping cas in just seems like we're delaying the inevitable ....

I for one would not like to see Cas get kicked out i love games against cas and the banter around the area. You go to cas games and cas come to us with a buzz in the air its exciting for the community. When harlequins/salford teams like that come there is nothing at all.

kick cas out?
maybe with celtic and there problems but your going a bit over the top now matey
you need to look at the crowd revenue for 08/09 and see who is actually near to celtic in that table aint us

Quote ="BelleVueLifer"which jokers? cas or celtic? oh wait...i have a better idea....lets bring fax and widnes in at the expense of celtic AND wakefield as generate more revenue now cas' ground has gone slow but still ongoing with planning permission wakefield council giving us land to build and sell unlike some , players being asked to take pay cuts who are backup players, the club backing out on deals to sign =redEDIT keeping cas in seems like strengthing superleague .... :lol viewtopic.php?t=421878 Please be aware. Bigal1

Quote ="BelleVueLifer"which jokers? cas or celtic? oh wait...i have a better idea....lets bring fax and widnes in at the expense of celtic AND wakefield as generate more revenue now cas' ground has gone slow but still ongoing with planning permission wakefield council giving us land to build and sell unlike some , players being asked to take pay cuts who are backup players, the club backing out on deals to sign =redEDIT keeping cas in seems like strengthing superleague .... :lol viewtopic.php?t=421878 Please be aware. Bigal1

1. Don't think you've quite got that right now have you. Perhaps you should pay more attention to what they have "given" you.

2. Players that your club management actually wanted to sign but has now realised they're too dumb to be able to count to 6 quota players.


Now personally, I wouldn't want to see Cas kicked out any more than I would like to see Celtic kicked out but this seems to be becoming a battle of wits between 2 supporters of equal intelligence, who both are making ridiculous statements.

ok lets base SL entry criteria solely on attendances and how many burgers we sell !!! you're a cracker jack you



If we're looking at things, YOU need to look at the league table, and note that Wakefield are above Castleford.

I wonder what the world of 'wakey haters' will shout when we're in our nice new stadium and our attandances are improved...because as it stands, there is one stock chant isnt there ....

"rubbish (commonly replaced with an inappropriate 4 letter swear word) ground, no fans"

apart from a ground, which is being sorted as we speak, and a question mark over attendances, which the community team are improving week on week - note the celtic attendance, wakefield are mixing it with the best of them...

we are doing well in the league and have been all season, our youth development/academy is arguably the best its ever been, the club is attracting new quality players, example shane tronc, the club now has stability, since promotion the club has never been out of SL...

barring the ground which is being sorted, we tick the majority of boxes. All the right noises and all the right actions are happening at wakefield at the moment and the sooner people accept the positives that wakefield have to offer the better !!!!!

back on to the original topic, something that the cas person can't get his head around (or basic english for that matter) but i have just changed the company that i work for under tupe. i previously had to provide to my old company my identity and supply my passport as evidence that i was a british citizen and entitled to be employed in this country. the new company that i now work for i have had to do the same. these companies are making sure that they comply with the laws of this country.

WHY DID CELTIC NOT DO THIS ? it is applicable to every business in the united kingdom ! to me they have been compliant and should face prosecution as would every business employing illegal immigrants in to this country ! why is rugby league any different ?

CELTIC EMPLOYED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN TO THIS COUNTRY SO SHOULD FACE THE SAME PENALTIES AS TO OTHER BUSINESSES DOING THE SAME !







there is no defence and the club should be held responsible!

I don't get your point here. You had to prove you were British by providing your passport.
They had to prove they were non-British, by providing whatever they had to provide.
So you are asking, why did Celtic not do this.
Not do what, exactly? They would not have had British passports.

Were they ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS when they were first employed. Because that is what you are stating, as if you know this for sure. That could be a libelous statement.
They(some) have, by your reckoning, been ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS(your caps) for 3 years. Earning coin, paying taxes, entertaining crowds and in the public spotlight. In the press every week, and not spotted by our Immigration guys for 3 years.
Whereas some ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS have...etc....etc.....and are still here.

Of course, Trinity/Cas/Saints/Wigan/Hull etc. have done nothing wrong, ever. Well not recently anyroads. Well, not last week.

Still, at least this great RL family we are all a part of sticks together. Which is nice.

A lot will depend on how the visas are invalid. If they are all invalid on a number of different technicalities, then it may just be that poor scrutiny has let them down. If it turns out that they all pretty much fail on the same or similar more substantial grounds, then the club has some questions to answer, because it is inconceivable that six players can all make the same or similar "innocent" mistake.

I'm not bothered whether there is a club in Wales or not, but now that they are in, as a game, we should want them to succeed. It would be tragedy for all those souls down there who have done the hard yards, and not just scouted a few Aussies with dodgy visas, if it fails because of this.

The RFL have said that they would not refuse registration if the UK Border Agency grants the player a visa, and it is a matter between the player and the Border Agency. But if the visa that lands on their desk is entitled "tourist" or "student", then the RFL is as potentially complicit as the club. If this turns out to be a lot of blind eyes in the name of the sacred cow of expansion, then those who run the game need to be ashamed of themselves, because other thoroughbred clubs lost out to let Celtics in.

I think the rfl have come up terrible in this. over the last ten tears it has never been possible to play super league on a holiday maker visa. When celtic were entered into super league they would have had to draw up new contracts and register them with the rfl. So the rfl have registered 6 players on holiday making visa knowing full well they were not legal. The fact is they should come out take ownership of this debacle and APOLIGISE to all rugby clubs but esp those who apllied for a licence. This is turning our great game into a disgrace.

you have to prove that you are eligable to work in this country ! i am a british citizen so my passport is enough..non-eu people should have the correct visa's etc!

The six players playing in Super League currently have the correct visas. This appears not to have been the case before this season...but can you really believe only one club in one sport would have fallen foul on this loophole?

I know what youre getting at, and i agree...im sure there has been other incidents that have gone undetected with regards to visa's etc , BUT....in a professional era, in a professional sport, the administrators of ALL involved here, SHOULD have made sure this didnt happen - Really we need our own house in order before we go trying to shift the negative attention towards other sports.

Intresting to hear craig spence' comments about 13 other super league clubs have players on similar visas and only celtics players were supposed to be exempt from the ruling!!