I am sorry but the reasons given may be correct but does not cover the specific suggestion that the council and it's leader have deliberately got in the way of our development in favour of Castleford. We may not have the greatest sporting facilities but we do have 2 SL and 3 championship clubs all falling into the WF district and all watching that none are shown unfair favouritism.
We are doing it ourselves with this topic suggesting that Castleford are receiving favourable treatment. I cannot trace any evidence of this other than wild allegations from some on here.
We and all the other RL clubs in the district have to take responsibility for the position each find themselves in. It is not up to the council to favour us, if the ground is not developed it is not their fault but that of the people in charge of putting the deal in place. They have put us into a position to develop a new facility but the reason it still remains a drawing on an architects board is that those handling the arrangements appear to have been outflanked by the developers.
I am sure those members closer to the process will know what went wrong but currently this still remains unclear.

I haven't got a clue one way or the other about Box and his feeling about Newmarket. I know there has been a general feeling among the other 2 WF sides that he favors his own side but hey what do we all know when it comes down to it. I will say he doesn't do himself any favours about trying to keep impartial about the 3 clubs, he obviously loves Cas Tigers and isn't afraid to show it.
Then add that to the way he responded to the question possed to him by Sandal Cat on the radio recently about what was happening about Newmaket and the Community Facilites, basically saying not my problem mush, spoke volumes imo.

I'm sure there are those that are close to the project that will be avaible to answer the question more accurately. Form the outside looking in though, he is the head of the WMDC and he put the parties together in the first place and if I was in his position I'd be making a lot more noise about this S106 cock up or whatever it is. Personally I think it woud be a huge feather in the cap for WMDC to upgrade the cities sports facilities and I'd have thought he'd have wanted the glory of making that happen, then again I'm just your averge guy, not a politician.

It's favours NOT favors. Sorry but, I have to contend with the American rape of the English language every day here in the Phils and I expect not to see it when I visit this or any other British forum unless of course you are American in which case it's still "favours"!

As far as I know they have put in for PP

Give over telling me to give over or I'll set Dennis Skinner on you and he'll do more than tell you to give over.

We're stuck with Box at least until the next Labour Government. The very few people that vote at local elections only use them as a protest against the National ruling party of the day. Labour nearly lost their majority in Wakefield when Brown was P.M. but I doubt I'll see a Labour Government in my lifetime looking at the current representatives. Would have liked Scotland the not so brave to have broken away just to make it virtually impossible though.

Can't say I'm really bothered, I just thought I'd be a bit mischievous going off topic by asking a question about Cas's ground on the Peter Box thread.

You make a very good point Chissitt

I'm going to start to keep this to a Cas Ground discussion now.
If we don't have anything to say on t hat any more, we can just let the thread slip away.

Rather than me raping the English language, it was just a genuine spelling mistake mate. That and I'd just got back from a mind numbling boring trip to London and back just for a one hour meeting.

Very petty, pedantic or pathetic, yor grandma is obviously butter than shifty cats, well done the grammer police.

She's probably better as well

It was intentional

It is iritating though when you see the yank versions of our language everywhere. At work I'm forever correcting words like Fiber, Sulfur and Meter. The worst example we see in everyday life must be the supposedly British Holiday experience Parcs!

A lot of it's down to US spell checks and autocorrect. However, like King Canute before us, resistance is futile. Youth culture is swamped with americanisms. Sulfur is now the accepted spelling in British GCSE text books.
Even Cas' stadium is called the meh jungle???

The old site with Waystone, yes.

The new site opposite side of J32 with Lateral, no. It's still in consideration for planning. Even if it gets through, it will go to public inquiry IMO simply for the factors involved.

It has been submitted to the council for consideration. The deadline for hearing it is meant to be the end of next month but I've heard that this may be put back to the New Year now as it seems WMDC struggling to get through all the applications. One from March for the changing of B and Q to a Sainsbury's still yet to be heard.

I think there is a public demand from Castleford and surrounding areas and a recognition for the jobs, economic benefits and also the new stadium for Cas for it but as both clubs know, these things very rarely run smoothly or to plan.

Quote ="wrencat1873"It may just be a rant but, it is without doubt that Mr Box and 2 of our local MP's are very much on favour at the "Mend-a-hose Jungle" and there would certainly be a strong whiff of favouritism, should the development sail through without all of the hoops and hurdles that Newmarket has had. Having said that, they seem to have their fair share of NIMBYS over there as well.'" Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry. He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?

Quote ="wrencat1873"It may just be a rant but, it is without doubt that Mr Box and 2 of our local MP's are very much on favour at the "Mend-a-hose Jungle" and there would certainly be a strong whiff of favouritism, should the development sail through without all of the hoops and hurdles that Newmarket has had. Having said that, they seem to have their fair share of NIMBYS over there as well.'" Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry. He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?

Quote ="Fully"Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry. He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?'" Can we get things straight. It's not Wakefield Trinity's application its the Stadium Trust's application and it is they who will own the Stadium not Wakefield Trinity who will be tenants paying a rent to the Trust. The Stadium at Glasshoughton was to be owned by Castleford Tigers and that being a private company it cannot receive "gifts" of public money.

Quote ="Fully"Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry. He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?'" Can we get things straight. It's not Wakefield Trinity's application its the Stadium Trust's application and it is they who will own the Stadium not Wakefield Trinity who will be tenants paying a rent to the Trust. The Stadium at Glasshoughton was to be owned by Castleford Tigers and that being a private company it cannot receive "gifts" of public money.

Wasn't it a private company that submitted the planning permission, ergo wouldn't the money be going towards a private company? And indeed, the Stadium Trust was going to own the stadium, they weren't paying for it; again, the stadium was being part-paid by a private company (Yorkcourt).

And Cas could quite easily have set up a trust as has been stated; however, this is going over old ground that we don't need to go over. The point was that there was a lot of council bashing on here and yet they have provided support to you guys with your stadium plans. They could have rejected the application, they didn't; they could have stood by and folded when Leeds opposed it, they didn't; they could have told you they weren't prepared to pay the above nor offer a £2m loan/grant/money, they didn't. They could have given in at public inquiry, they didn't.

Let's face it, any Cllr in this district regardless of affinity will want to deliver what the people want - it gets them votes. Quite frankly, if they didn't, they'd be out the door faster than you can say Maggie Thatcher.

Does that post mean anything?

Well, yes. A few seem to think that there is a bias towards us. There isn't. Both aren't in a new stadium and both have been offered help.

How do you know what help the council has given to you or the Wakefield Community trust apart from pretending to be knowledgable reading fans forums.

Because both schemes have been in the public eye and any help would have to go through council meetings, hence the £2m loans offered to both, hence the design fees link I posted above.

Yes, but I believe that any monies paid were paid to the Stadium Trust and not to Wakefield Trinity or Yorkcourt. I may be wrong but the Council giving money to a Private Company would raise serious questions and may be "Ultra Vires".

Apologies SC, you're right - it would certainly help if I read my own link (always a good starting place). It seems that a loan was taken out by the Trust to pay for them but if the stadium failed then the council would foot the bill for them.