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| Manuel you are spot on. Keith Smith ,one of the best centres ever at Wakefield .,finished playing early because of anxiety
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| Quote ="Manuel"From the past, remember the late and brilliant Keith Smith has serious anxiety issues. Anne others can remember.'"
You're quite right Manuel. It was well publicised even in those unenlightened times.
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Quote ="marc271841"Why was she trolling?
I've read her post back and I don't see any trolling.
Let's say Lee had a stinker the week before and is struggling with anxiety before the game. The type you refer to as crippling. Is it unfathomable that he might withdraw for his own reasons and in the interest of the team?
The poster who went way OTT on the anxiety and mental health issues should probably contact SKY and tell them they needn't bother. As people should Man Up.
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... -awareness'"
She's renown for being anti Wakefield on other posts and I get the feeling she thinks it's funny
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Quote ="marc271841"Why was she trolling?
I've read her post back and I don't see any trolling.
Let's say Lee had a stinker the week before and is struggling with anxiety before the game. The type you refer to as crippling. Is it unfathomable that he might withdraw for his own reasons and in the interest of the team?
The poster who went way OTT on the anxiety and mental health issues should probably contact SKY and tell them they needn't bother. As people should Man Up.
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... -awareness'"
She's renown for being anti Wakefield on other posts and I get the feeling she thinks it's funny
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| Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 45 in the UK. Anxiety is a building block towards this. Anyone who dismisses this or uses it as Troll fodder want to simply be embarrassed of themselves. Chemical imbalances and life’s struggles all have an impact, because let’s face it life can be pretty crap at times, even for a child who I had to try but fail to resuscitate down in A & E from an overdose/ suicide. Everyone struggles, most just don’t say anything. Massive learning point for some people I reckon.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 45 in the UK. Anxiety is a building block towards this. Anyone who dismisses this or uses it as Troll fodder want to simply be embarrassed of themselves. Chemical imbalances and life’s struggles all have an impact, because let’s face it life can be pretty crap at times, even for a child who I had to try but fail to resuscitate down in A & E from an overdose/ suicide. Everyone struggles, most just don’t say anything. Massive learning point for some people I reckon.'"
Big of you to share that Pat, can’t imagine that was easy on you either.
Massively important for men and women to speak up about this sort of thing, hopefully others (especially a few on here) realise that sooner rather than later.
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| Interesting to see as this conversation takes place, Jansin Turgut is given the all clear to play RL again.
“Great news! I have had the all clear that I can play rugby league again. After battling mental illness leading to a suicide attempt, a month long coma, being told I may not walk again too overcoming mental health and nearly almost back fully fit. I feel amazing!“
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| "Anyone that is affected by things I don't understand is a snowflake" - Vastman 2k21
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Quote ="marc271841"Why was she trolling?
I've read her post back and I don't see any trolling.
Let's say Lee had a stinker the week before and is struggling with anxiety before the game. The type you refer to as crippling. Is it unfathomable that he might withdraw for his own reasons and in the interest of the team?
The poster who went way OTT on the anxiety and mental health issues should probably contact SKY and tell them they needn't bother. As people should Man Up.
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... -awareness'"
You are quite correct - I wasn’t “trolling” I was giving vastman- fount of all knowledge- a credible reason as to why Lee may not have made a very public appearance at a club event he wasn’t at. Something that wasn’t ‘because he’s still a giants player’ which is a load of old cobblers- much like his view on those suffering with anxiety.
Edit. Too far Jools...... Poptart
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Quote ="marc271841"Why was she trolling?
I've read her post back and I don't see any trolling.
Let's say Lee had a stinker the week before and is struggling with anxiety before the game. The type you refer to as crippling. Is it unfathomable that he might withdraw for his own reasons and in the interest of the team?
The poster who went way OTT on the anxiety and mental health issues should probably contact SKY and tell them they needn't bother. As people should Man Up.
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... -awareness'"
You are quite correct - I wasn’t “trolling” I was giving vastman- fount of all knowledge- a credible reason as to why Lee may not have made a very public appearance at a club event he wasn’t at. Something that wasn’t ‘because he’s still a giants player’ which is a load of old cobblers- much like his view on those suffering with anxiety.
Edit. Too far Jools...... Poptart
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| I'm happy for people to share their experience, whether just to publicise the issues or to educate if you feel it will.
In fact I think it's important people do just that. Some very moving comments above.
No need to follow up with any insults or put downs.
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| Vastman this is clearly a subject you know nothing about, just accept you posted without checking based on you perceived prejudices. What you are now doing is trying to deflect from the fact you clearly don’t know anything about anxiety, I would suggest you stop digging and accept the reality.
I should know because I have suffered with panic attacks for over 20 years all caused by the pressure of work and finding some travel sickness tablets on my plane seat. I clearly remember saying that is something I don’t need to worry about and then had my first attack. I can tell you I would not wish this on anyone because the symptoms are quite frightening. The attacks spread to all public places and can occur without warning, it could be a strange sound which meant I had to know how to get away to feel comfortable.
I am on medication which I must take everyday for the rest of my life but it is worth it because the alternative is isolating and staying at home.
It is not a sign of weakness whatever you think but I am fortunate that unlike a professional person I can take prescribed medication that might not be available to them.
The bottom line is shut up and concentrate on something you know about.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Vastman this is clearly a subject you know nothing about, just accept you posted without checking based on you perceived prejudices. What you are now doing is trying to deflect from the fact you clearly don’t know anything about anxiety, I would suggest you stop digging and accept the reality.
I should know because I have suffered with panic attacks for over 20 years all caused by the pressure of work and finding some travel sickness tablets on my plane seat. I clearly remember saying that is something I don’t need to worry about and then had my first attack. I can tell you I would not wish this on anyone because the symptoms are quite frightening. The attacks spread to all public places and can occur without warning, it could be a strange sound which meant I had to know how to get away to feel comfortable.
I am on medication which I must take everyday for the rest of my life but it is worth it because the alternative is isolating and staying at home.
It is not a sign of weakness whatever you think but I am fortunate that unlike a professional person I can take prescribed medication that might not be available to them.
The bottom line is shut up and concentrate on something you know about.'"
It surprises me that someone as frail as your good self could be responsible for some of the bile you've posted since your sudden appearance on the forum about 8 years ago.
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| I will tell you anxiety does not make you weak or incapable to think for yourself and this type of post shows the ignorance of people like you who are just embarrassing, the sad thing is that you don’t know why.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I will tell you anxiety does not make you weak or incapable to think for yourself and this type of post shows the ignorance of people like you who are just embarrassing, the sad thing is that you don’t know why.'"
Many of your posts on here show you know nothing about embarrassment.
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| No they show that I do not accept everything I am presented with to be fact.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No they show that I do not accept everything I am presented with to be fact.'"
Or just a bigot maybe? With your prejudice and antagonism directed at the club or its employees?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I will tell you anxiety does not make you weak or incapable to think for yourself and this type of post shows the ignorance of people like you who are just embarrassing, the sad thing is that you don’t know why.'"
I literally asked you not to do this the post before yours.
It isn't a subject to start picking fights or arguing over. Make your point or share your experience by all means. The wrapper on your post that tries to use it to pick a fight is not needed.
Same goes for your reply to him Wollo.
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| Quote ="jools"aw vasty - i love it when you act all knowledgeable and try to belittle others just to make yourself look clever. especially when it makes you look quite the opposite.
[uif I could be bothered[/u id go on line and find all the interviews he'd done that mention it -[u but I honestly cant be bothered to put you right.[/u I'll let you do that in your own time - plenty out there, and somewhere[u I even have a program with a big piece all about it.[/u '"
Twice you stated you can't be bothered but yet you still bother to post a reply, you've got the proof needed or so you say but still can't be bothered when by your own admittance you like to see him belittled, not much sense there dear, you haven't started early have you?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No they show that I do not accept everything I am presented with to be fact.'"
And yet everything you put on here is nowhere near factual
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| Quote ="jools"You are quite correct - I wasn’t “trolling” I was giving vastman- fount of all knowledge- a credible reason as to why Lee may not have made a very public appearance at a club event he wasn’t at. Something that wasn’t ‘because he’s still a giants player’ which is a load of old cobblers- much like his view on those suffering with anxiety.
Edit. Too far Jools...... Poptart'"
And yet the simple reason for not making a public appearance was…………
He was on holiday
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| Quote ="Jose"And yet the simple reason for not making a public appearance was…………
He was on holiday'"
How dare he?
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| Quote ="Jose"And yet everything you put on here is nowhere near factual'"
What like the club claiming that signing Liam Hood was fake news when in fact it was the fake news that was fake. If you can let me know anything I have posted which I claim to be factual with regards the club please let me know. If I am incorrect I will usually admit it when corrected which can be a little novel for some on here.
I expect the usual to come to your defence due to your close association to the clubs inner sanction, it is as if you were on the board.
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| Ah well. I thought there was an opportunity to talk about mental health and raise awareness.
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| I did try but I admit that the ignorance of some are beyond belief. When it comes to Jose then maybe you could get Vastman to have a word with his friend because where did I mention the club if it reassures them I could just be as obviously be referring to Boris Johnson who I never take any statement as fact because it rarely is. I know a little political but it is an example that not everything is club centric which Jose appears to be presume it is, a clear sign of insecurity.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I did try but I admit that the ignorance of some are beyond belief. When it comes to Jose then maybe you could get Vastman to have a word with his friend because where did I mention the club if it reassures them I could just be as obviously be referring to Boris Johnson who I never take any statement as fact because it rarely is. I know a little political but it is an example that not everything is club centric which Jose appears to be presume it is, a clear sign of insecurity.'"
Be careful. Your insinuations and accusations of insecurity are beginning to effect my mental health. You should know better.
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| Not really something to make fun about is it.
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