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| Quote ="TRB"Yes. We met with Sir Rodney last night and we had it confirmed that the application had been completed by the deadline of 4th April. Outline planning is now granted for the whole development at NM, which of course is in addition to the site having been removed from Green-belt.
There is a lot - and I mean a lot - of positive stuff going on in the background, but I have to ask for patience once more as it is a complex situation and the economic climate adds a few challenges.
I'm not entirely sure why the press release has not hit yet, but it will. After that, although we will be maintaining dialogue and encouraging the release of information it may well all go quiet again for a while.
We (reps for SWAG, RfN and ST) were very pleased with the work being done - both quality and quantity - and having Sir Rodneys reasurring presence is a real blessing.
Regretfully, due to the major balancing act currently ongoing, there is much we cannot divulge and some things that were alluded to but kept from us due to their commercially sensitive nature. This will no doubt frustrate many of you, but once we have agreed some wording with Sir Rodney then we will issue a little bit more detail.
HTH'"
So just to clarify that Andrew Glovers blurb in last weeks programme and his recent tweets about full planning are wrong and we are still just at the outline stage?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"So just to clarify that Andrew Glovers blurb in last weeks programme and his recent tweets about full planning are wrong and we are still just at the outline stage?'"
I think you have to be careful when speaking about full, detailed, outline planning as the terminology can be mis-construed.
What AG meant was that we have full outline planning. That is the 4th April deadline was met by Yorkcourt and therefore all conditions have been met and the Secretary of State will issue the document that confirms the Outline Consent.
This is great news as obtaining Outline Consent is always the difficult part and having gone through a Public Inquiry you will know what I mean.
As TRB has said a great deal of work in now going on to pull together the Detailed Application for the Stadium which in this difficult economic climate is not easy as there is likely to be a number of partners involved.
This is all good news and as TRB has said we will all need to be patient as things come together but we will all be informed of progress as it happens and when information can be divulged.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"So just to clarify that Andrew Glovers blurb in last weeks programme and his recent tweets about full planning are wrong and we are still just at the outline stage?'"
Not quite - he's not wrong - we have FULL OUTLINE - the detailed application will relate to the design of the stadium only. What we know now is that we can build a stadium on that piece of land.
We haven't even applied for detailed PP yet as this will reflect the partners involved.
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Quote ="Sandal Cat":vb7nha39I think you have to be careful when speaking about full, detailed, outline planning as the terminology can be mis-construed.
What AG meant was that we have full outline planning. That is the 4th April deadline was met by Yorkcourt and therefore all conditions have been met and the Secretary of State will issue the document that confirms the Outline Consent.
This is great news as obtaining Outline Consent is always the difficult part and having gone through a Public Inquiry you will know what I mean.
As TRB has said a great deal of work in now going on to pull together the Detailed Application for the Stadium which in this difficult economic climate is not easy as there is likely to be a number of partners involved.
This is all good news and as TRB has said we will all need to be patient as things come together but we will all be informed of progress as it happens and when information can be divulged.'" :vb7nha39
Fair enough. Somebody might want a word with AG then and make sure he knows!
Its on the Wakey council planning website now anyway. Planning number is 13/00766/REM
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Quote ="Sandal Cat":vb7nha39I think you have to be careful when speaking about full, detailed, outline planning as the terminology can be mis-construed.
What AG meant was that we have full outline planning. That is the 4th April deadline was met by Yorkcourt and therefore all conditions have been met and the Secretary of State will issue the document that confirms the Outline Consent.
This is great news as obtaining Outline Consent is always the difficult part and having gone through a Public Inquiry you will know what I mean.
As TRB has said a great deal of work in now going on to pull together the Detailed Application for the Stadium which in this difficult economic climate is not easy as there is likely to be a number of partners involved.
This is all good news and as TRB has said we will all need to be patient as things come together but we will all be informed of progress as it happens and when information can be divulged.'" :vb7nha39
Fair enough. Somebody might want a word with AG then and make sure he knows!
Its on the Wakey council planning website now anyway. Planning number is 13/00766/REM
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| Congratulations and thanks to all involved. I still feel that there is someway to go with this, but another important step.
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| Hopefully the timescale wont be too long, from the drawings the stadium does look impressive:
So when can we expect Full Planning going in?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"So when can we expect Full Planning going in?'"
Can't give you an answer on that just yet. Agree partners / requirements, then plans. Some exciting stuff going on, almost too much for it all to happen, but Sir Rodney and co are picking their way through it all.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"filled in corners??'"
I'm sure TRB can correct me if I'm wrong but the plan has always been to fill in the corners, subject to funding being sought & granted.
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| Another positive step made then and awesome stuff from everyone involved.
As far as plans go it looks impressive and for me if we can end up with anything like Donny's stadium. they'll be thousands of happy fans.
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| Which bits our half?
We're not having yellow seats to look at!
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| Quote ="Topcat13"Which bits our half?
We're not having yellow seats to look at!'"
We're not having any yellow/amber seats unless they get their finger out within the next 2 months (before full planning permission).
All the major issues were hammered out, at great length, during the outline/public inquiry stage. All this deals with is the final ascetics of the stadium. So we'll know exactly what were getting in 's terms of the colour scheme of the building in due time. Let's run with the premise that Cas had agreed to NM, but not told the fans or the press. The cat would be out of the bag once plans go in & get published online. So I think it's fair to say that if they haven't signed up by that stage they won't be coming at all.
If they were to join at a late stage they wouldn't be moving into a community stadium in the true sense of the term. The place would have Wakefield written all over it, literally.
In terms of ascetics for a "community stadium" I'd be more than happy with something traditional to our region, whilst remaining neutral to any club. Say blue seats with a white fleur de lis.
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"Let's run with the premise that Cas had agreed to NM, but not told the fans or the press. The cat would be out of the bag once plans go in & get published online.'"
Be prepared to be massively dissapointed.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Be prepared to be massively dissapointed.'"
I'd be disappointed if Cas were to share it. It would kill them, and I for one don't want that.
If Cas leave Cas they'll die a slow withering death.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Be prepared to be massively dissapointed.'"
As if any Wakefield fan wants to share with Castleford.
The one thing both sets of fans have said is that in an ideal world there would be no ground share. You made that a reality when you refused the offer we were obliged to make.
THANK GOD FOR RICHARD WRIGHT!
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Be prepared to be massively dissapointed.'"
Firstly I'm sure any "covert deal" would be made without your consultation so how you would be "in the know" to make such a bold statement.
Secondly we would be more likely to be up in arms than dissapointed following the comments attributed to your then CEO and his under hand methods of derailing the NM project.
Add onto that comments from deluded Cas fans such as Alf and Fully throughout the process (both NM and GH).
You're welcome to your pickle!!
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| I'm guessing it will look nothing like the artists impression. Never does.
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| That's not an "Artists Impression" its a submitted planning application, any varriations from that plan will need to be submitted to planning for final approval
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| I will have a bet with you it will not have corners Financial Times. Someone said above that we have planning permission to build a stadium on that site. That's what all the behind the scenes stuff is now. To see what we can afford and who is going to help to pay for it. Try googling the artists impression of the Salford stadium. The finished article is nothing like. Don't get me wrong it would be great to have a bowl like stadium but these things never quite pan out that way. If I'm wrong then I will stick my hand up.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"That's not an "Artists Impression" its a submitted planning application, any varriations from that plan will need to be submitted to planning for final approval
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Yes it is and no there is no guarantee that the final stadium will look anything like that.
As stated we have final outline planning permission, which is the hardest part. However we have not submitted final detailed plans and have not got final planning permission.
My own opinion if Salford is anything to go by is that those plans are possibly over optimistic but I honestly don't know for certain - nobody does right now.
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| Quote ="Jason"I will have a bet with you it will not have corners Financial Times. Someone said above that we have planning permission to build a stadium on that site. That's what all the behind the scenes stuff is now. To see what we can afford and who is going to help to pay for it. Try googling the artists impression of the Salford stadium. The finished article is nothing like. Don't get me wrong it would be great to have a bowl like stadium but these things never quite pan out that way. If I'm wrong then I will stick my hand up.'"
I'm guessing the Salford stadium will look like the plans that have been submitted to the LA though.
The image I posted earlier is showing the planners what the stadium will look like from the outside. Granted the corners may not be filled in but ultimately it will resemble the plans, otherwise what's the point of them?
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| Personally I only want three of the corners filled in. This will allow for an effective and entertaining route down which to chase the referee.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Personally I only want three of the corners filled in. This will allow for an effective and entertaining route down which to chase the referee.'"
I think we should also incorporate an MMA style cage next to the dug-out, in which any visiting 'hard man' can spend 3 rounds with Justin 'The Dark Knight' Poore.
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