Quote ="PopTart"Firstly there are no bouncers at Asda or Tesco. Secondly it isn't against the law to ignore a request from store staff Third security staff can't really detain you in a supermarket. At best they keep the goods you were trying to steal and possibly report you to the police if they got you on cctv. But most of all, the staff are just not capable or paid enough to police a store.'" citizens arrest https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/c ... st-uk-law/

Quote ="PopTart"Firstly there are no bouncers at Asda or Tesco. Secondly it isn't against the law to ignore a request from store staff Third security staff can't really detain you in a supermarket. At best they keep the goods you were trying to steal and possibly report you to the police if they got you on cctv. But most of all, the staff are just not capable or paid enough to police a store.'" citizens arrest https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/c ... st-uk-law/

Quote ="snowie"citizens arrest https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/c ... st-uk-law/'" And how many of the times you have seen someone break the law, whether in a pub or shop or car have you deployed that rule? Neither will Margaret on the bakery counter at Tesco.

Quote ="snowie"citizens arrest https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/c ... st-uk-law/'" And how many of the times you have seen someone break the law, whether in a pub or shop or car have you deployed that rule? Neither will Margaret on the bakery counter at Tesco.

I don’t know about that PT, Margaret’s a big lass, I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of her.

just the once pal, caught one coming out of my garden he ended up with a little help running down my drive and went head in to the wheel of my car, I tried to stop him but he insisted on checking the depth of my tyre tread, when police arrived they then found two others in the park all been on weed, as usual the police told them off and said don't do it again

The one thing is he never came back so it looks like the warning did sink in

You know some times you have to stand up to what is right I've been brought up correctly I expect others to do so too

Oh and Margaret is she a security guard or a baker make your mind up

Good on you. I'm glad you got them.
In terms of store, all I'm saying is they are not equipped for that. They don't have lots of security so it ends up being store staff.
Of course they could pay for more security but all it will do is push prices up. It shouldn't be needed but I guess it is in some places now.

Had to cancel one with the grandkids at an Haven park on the east coast which was hard due to not seeing much of them over the last few months but they couldn’t guarantee us doing the basics as a family, but I’m sure we’ll make up for it at some time.

What have you done with your bucket, spade and windmill, I might need to borrow them, thinking’ about having a few days at Scarborough, when all the kids are back at school.

Going for the odd day with them but you can have the bucket for a hat as well, same shape

Cut some eye holes into it, then it’ll save me wearing a mask.

My glass is becoming half empty again, seems we go one step forward, two steps back, don’t know if we’ll see a live game this season.
More cases of coronavirus confirmed in Pinderfields Hospital outbreak
In a statement, the Trust said: "Further to our statement earlier this week, we can confirm 5 patients and 10 staff from Ward 45A (one of our respiratory wards) have now tested positive for Covid-19.

Then this
Nationwide lockdown changes due to take effect tomorrow have been scrapped with hours to spare, Boris Johnson has confirmed.
Plans to reopen bowling alleys, casinos and ice rinks in England from August 1 have been postponed for at least two weeks after cases began to rise in England.
Pilot schemes to restart socially distanced events such as indoor performances and large crowds at sporting events have also been put on hold.

Wonder if this is linked to that local Asylum Seekers Hostel outbreak?

first time I've been out today went to cannon hall farm for the afternoon and it's been lovely, everyone seemed to respect other people space, they staged entry and queues was minimal.
As for the out break in the hospital it seems like standards must of slipped and it wouldn't surprise me as it seemed normal being in public.
Bowling alleys, casinos and ice rinks all are bit difficult in keep distance from each other and items which swap hands so it's not surprising.

Saints take a knee ?

I don't know what to say about that but RL clubs are definitely playing with fire with that stuff.

They all ought to think very carefully about what they are seen to be supporting by doing it.
You don't have to go too far in to internetz land to become....informed, its some proper toxic politics that will see some upset.
Sky are saying Saints took the knee for the Black Lives Matter MOVEMENT, so there's no escaping that fall out if it's true, but it is Sky after all.

Actually, I just personally joined some dots there writing that last line....

I saw Brixton yesterday, people marching in paramilitary uniform some with balaclavas, people need to do their research into BLM. Judging by the comments on Facebook, some people have stated they will not buy another season ticket if Wakefield take the knee. BLM is stirring up hatred and division.

Folau stuck by his beliefs and didn’t succumb to political pressures wether you agree with his views or not and didn’t kneel

I may be one. I can’t stop people doing it but I can withdrawal my financial support.

If the club has anything about it they should encourage players stand arm in arm to signify all lives matter. There I should be nothing special about being black, that after all is the point surely.

Sky is the boss
It might not be as simple as turning the other cheek

I feel a bit dirty for wishing Sky UK was still controlled by Murdoch, but you only have to compare political coverage with Sky Australia to see the yawning chasm that exists between them politically.

Sybolising anything can be taken over and used by any organisation trying to obtain notoriety.
For me the whole one knee episode should be shelved along with the black lives matter .
Any one with an ounce of sence understands that black lives matter along with all lives.
Just how you eradicate racism and discrimination will have to be worked out by someone with more brain power and influence than i have but im not one of the many who need influencing.
Good luck with that one.

I'm sorry but this is one instance where clubs should stand firm.
The very term BLM is racist in itself and to me it is being driven by vile people, NO kneeling - Full stop.

I’m fully behind any player at the club who decides to take the knee. I won’t be withdrawing my support.

The club is the employer of the players. The fans are the customers of the club. If the majority of customers don’t agree with the club’s employees actions of supporting an extremist leftist movement, the I urge the club management not to alienate its customers, by condoning its employees actions of supporting said extremist BLM movement. I will not support such actions. I pay to watch a game of rugby league, not a demonstration of support for an extremist movement.

Wow. Just wow.
I can't understand where you get some of this from.

Martin Offiah explained on the preview exactly why Black Lives are in focus and why saying black lives Matter does not take anything away from any other race.

The all lives matter comments and throwing words like terrorism around just shows how ill informed people are.

I think it's pretty clear that some people, too many people, regard a black life as less than any other. That is why there is focus on it.
It doesn't mean they are trying to take over. It means they want people to treat them exactly the same. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
If a group of people take that too far, whether starting a group with the same name or tearing down statues it takes nothing away from the point that although all lives matter, there is a definite need to point out that being black should not mean your life is at risk, and right now, in some places it does.

If taking a knee is the symbol of supporting people who believe black lives should matter more than they do in some peoples eyes right now then I'm all for it. It's not mandatory.
As Offiah said. Doing the Joining Jack symbol means you are supporting that cause. It doesn't mean you don't support other causes or that if you don't do it, that you don't support Jack.
But right now, the more people that take notice that the life of a black person is harder than that of a white person in modern society, for no reason than the colour of their skin, the better.

In relation to players taking the knee then I have no problem at all with them doing so.

It is their right to exercise their beliefs just as it is people’s right to criticise them for it.

I do hope that it doesn’t become a weekly ritual like it did in the Premiership but if it does so be it. Who am I or anyone else to tell grown men how to behave if what they are doing is not breaking any laws of the land.

If they have had life experiences and a set of beliefs which means they feel strong enough to do it fair play to them.

Do I think they are showing support for a terrorist organisation? Absolutely not. They are showing support for an ideology that represents imbalance that they feel needs addressing.

It’s like saying people who use the “White Lives Matter” slogan are supporting the Neo-Nazi facist group that shares that name.

At the end of the day, hopefully these actions lead people to research the issues, stimulate positive conversations and inspire education around all the issues of race and inequality and then come to an informed decision, which ever side of the fence they fall.

If this action does that then in the long term in my opinion that can only be a positive.

I think it is highly ironic that people with extreme views either way try to make this topic a very black and white issue when it is far from it.

I’m sorry PT, but using your argument above, then you can have no objection to me producing a placard saying “white lives matter 2”. That doesn’t infer white lives matter more than any other. My objection to knee bending, it is the act of submission, to me it’s as offensive as the black gloves, clenched fist salute. We all see things differently, we all have different opinions.

Please explain to me where the imbalance and inequality exists in our society. We all have a right to a quality education, everyone uses the same transport systems, gyms, shops, hospitals, dentists, doctors. Everyone as the opportunity to become what they want in this country and il quote Morgan Freeman in this, failure is just an excuse to complain and moan. Lots of doctors in the nhs are now from foreign backgrounds. Let’s take Muslims, Indians, Chinese and Jews most of them have shops, taxis, businesses, restaurants and take aways so what is the problem. Il repeat again failure is an excuse for can’t be d, with hard work you can be a doctor, nurse, athlete, builder or anything you want to be. BLM is a far left dangerous group of people hell bent on causing trouble a movement that’s infiltrated the brain washed radicalised students and lecturers in our universities.